Stellaboz Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 No you are right - we could have made good economic use of it - obviously when you are big time boys you must charter your own jet and expect great big subsidiesNeither of which happened, fanny 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Neither of which happened, fannyYes so maybe you cut your cloth to suit like many other clubs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Dunfermline Nobody else is to blame for your idiocy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Its abit ridiculous that people think travelling by coach to south England on the day of the match is even remotely considered acceptable preparation for professional athletes. Even amateur sports that require UK wide travel don’t do that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Its abit ridiculous that people think travelling by coach to south England on the day of the match is even remotely considered acceptable preparation for professional athletes. Even amateur sports that require UK wide travel don’t do that.It’s a wonder then how tinpot clubs travel the length and breadth of England every week at League Two and conference level then - all without the handout that poor wee Dunfermline were given and spunked away to cover a similar distance.Or perhaps the mighty Barrow have got a frequent flyer discount. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 09:27, parsforlife said: Its abit ridiculous that people think travelling by coach to south England on the day of the match is even remotely considered acceptable preparation for professional athletes. Even amateur sports that require UK wide travel don’t do that. It's about a 7 hour bus journey each way. Hire a coach for two days and stay overnight in a shithole Travelodge with shared rooms off a motorway about an hour north of Boreham Wood. A 3.5k subsidy and around 5k in split gate receipts would cover that easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DAVIDB69 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 But all levels of football the balance isn’t the same , say Dundee United drew borehamwood , clearly they would fly Edinburgh to Luton night before and stay overnight . It’s the not the same for everyone though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyArab92 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 It’s a wonder then how tinpot clubs travel the length and breadth of England every week at League Two and conference level then - all without the handout that poor wee Dunfermline were given and spunked away to cover a similar distance.Or perhaps the mighty Barrow have got a frequent flyer discount.I think it’s a bit inaccurate to say without the handout Dunfermline had. The money a league two team receives through the TV money will be nothing short of 6 figures far more than Dunfermline will get equivalent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) On 18/08/2019 at 16:07, OzzyArab92 said: I think it’s a bit inaccurate to say without the handout Dunfermline had. The money a league two team receives through the TV money will be nothing short of 6 figures far more than Dunfermline will get equivalent. And those clubs have got to fund 23 league games from that resource, not one. For which Dunfermline were given extra money specifically to support travel costs in addition to the competition's prize money and their cut of the gate receipts. If they want to fly their club employees down for the fixture then they're free to do so, but to then bleat about how hard done by they were as a result is laughable nonsense. Edited August 20, 2019 by vikingTON 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 hours ago, OzzyArab92 said: The money a league two team receives through the TV money will be nothing short of 6 figures far more than Dunfermline will get equivalent. For National League level there are quotes of the TV deal they had being £300k p/a from 2013 and the subsequent extensions haven't trumpeted increases. While the National League have additional sponsors and probably get a payment from the EFL I doubt they're rolling in money. Yet you had a club like Barrow (av. 1,375) going down to the South coast of England multiple times last year: Dover (av. 1,123), Havant & Waterlooville (av. 1,277) and Eastleigh (av. 1,849). With those clubs having to head up to the Northwest once a year for the return legs. The National League North can also be pretty bad for travel as well and they would have lesser resources to do it on. Maybe Dunfermline flying down helped them win the tie, but they didn't have to. It was their choice to take a loss. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Think the point is being lost here, tbh.Why does anyone think that Scottish lower league clubs should need to travel to Boreham Wood for a second level Scottish Cup competition, and was anyone genuinely excited about an away day to Hertfordshire?They have already damaged the League Cup and the Challenge cup, and the Scottish cup will soon follow over the next few seasons without doubt... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, roman_bairn said: They have already damaged the League Cup and the Challenge cup, and the Scottish cup will soon follow over the next few seasons without doubt... 1) How has the League Cup been "damaged"? The tournament has had group stages on and off over its entire duration, and the main knock-out stages are in exactly the same format as it has been for the last 25+ years. 2) I'm not sure "they" will be "damaging" the Scottish Cup given that it's run by a completely different organisation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Worth pointing out in terms of this prize money discussion that Dunfermline raked in over £200k for finishing 7th in the Championship last season, and over £300k for finishing 4th in the previous season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Worth pointing out in terms of this prize money discussion that Dunfermline raked in over £200k for finishing 7th in the Championship last season, and over £300k for finishing 4th in the previous season.Utterly irrelevant in this case to talk about league prize money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 8 hours ago, roman_bairn said: Think the point is being lost here, tbh. Why does anyone think that Scottish lower league clubs should need to travel to Boreham Wood for a second level Scottish Cup competition, and was anyone genuinely excited about an away day to Hertfordshire? They have already damaged the League Cup and the Challenge cup, and the Scottish cup will soon follow over the next few seasons without doubt... It's the SPFL who think that, who are run by the very same clubs! I enjoy the "foreign" teams, some great trips for fans. For Ayr fans for example it's great to see their club play a competitive fixture outside of Scotland (& Berwick) by traveling to Wrexham. The colt teams can GTF though. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Marten said: It's the SPFL who think that, who are run by the very same clubs! I enjoy the "foreign" teams, some great trips for fans. For Ayr fans for example it's great to see their club play a competitive fixture outside of Scotland (& Berwick) by traveling to Wrexham. The colt teams can GTF though. Agree completely. By my reckoning in the last decade we have played every team in the league except Cove, Motherwell, St Johnstone, Celtic and Elgin (and we played them in 2008). I'm looking forward to the game at Wrexham and the weekend away. It's nice to add a bit of variety. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Utterly irrelevant in this case to talk about league prize money. Two posters above were talking about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1) How has the League Cup been "damaged"? The tournament has had group stages on and off over its entire duration, and the main knock-out stages are in exactly the same format as it has been for the last 25+ years. 2) I'm not sure "they" will be "damaging" the Scottish Cup given that it's run by a completely different organisation.1. You don’t think playing the same teams every year in a group stage deliberately aimed to replace ‘friendlies’ in any way lowers the value of the League Cup? 2. ‘They’ being authorities rather than any single group. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam_barnett Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Most dates/times confirmed - https://spfl.co.uk/news/tunnocks-caramel-wafer-cup-r3-details, only live TV game being Connah's Quay v Cove on the Saturday at 5:15pm on S4C. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 The “foreign” teams being in it is very annoying. Especially when one of the Welsh sides is actually representing an English league. What a shambles 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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