Chapelhall chap Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Savage Henry said: It is, but I’m far more sceptical of people who vote for one party all their lives. Especially a party like the SNP, which at one point was right of centre, then moved to the left, and now sits centre left. People make political journeys, but it’s pretty difficult to explain only voting SNP over a thirty year time frame on any kind of ideological level. Your definition of ideological would appear to be on the Left/Right spectrum.( The interest of "Labour" as compared to the interest of "Capital) . That is one level of ideological struggle but if you believed that Scotland should leave the U.K and restore its sovereignty as a State , that is also surely an ideological decision and that determines who you vote for in most elections? The SNP has changed policy positions over the years ( N.A.T.O) following conference decisions based on what was deemed to be in the interest of the Scottish people. I supported the initial Common market membership in 1975, and did find it difficult to vote SNP in that period . The Scotland in the EU change made it easier to move over from Labour for other reasons Edited May 28, 2019 by Chapelhall chap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Labour, Lib Dems, Communist as far as I can recall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: Thought about starting another thread for this, but there probably wouldn't be enough replies to make it worthwhile; have any P&Bers run, or seriously considered running, for political office? I know we've had Ad Lib, and I'm sure Granny Danger mentioned being a Labour councillor. Guy I went to college with almost raised the £500 to stand as a candidate for the 'Paint Your Penis Green' Party. He just wanted to hear the Returning Officer read the name out on election night. Bless. Doubt the Electoral Commission would have allowed it. The rules forbid party names if they are "obscene or offensive or contain certain prohibited words". He was probably going to run off with the cash. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 @Sergeant Wilson is ominously absent from this thread as a putsch is all you need to solve such situations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Doubt the Electoral Commission would have allowed it. The rules forbid party names if they are "obscene or offensive or contain certain prohibited words". He was probably going to run off with the cash. I really doubt he'd looked far enough ahead to check the rules. Wonder if 'tadger' is on the list of prohibited words... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Liberial Democrats in my early years of voting (mostly tactical against the Tories in West Aberdeenshire) and since I moved into Aberdeen its been SNP and that was even when Aberdeen was more or less a "safe" Labour area. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Labour, Scottish Socialist Party and SNP. Thankfully i don't live in England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Labour and SNP only. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainspotter Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 15 hours ago, pandarilla said: 15 hours ago, sophia said: Isn't helping constituents up there in the top one of a MSP of MP's priorities? Sound or not, turns out Charlie was a fraud. Shame really. Given what the Tories and Labour represented in the days when weeks were three, they would never get my vote. Neither could I bring myself to support the charlatans of the liberal party. Their all things to all locals schtick never fooled me. It's always been obvious to me that my sympathies would have to be elsewhere and where better than a party that has been unstinting in their positivity. It's only beyond independence day that I might have cause to consider a transferrable vote. Why was he a fraud? Can't help on the fraud thing but his expenses whilst President of Glasgow University Union were (I'm told) awe-inspiring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Thought about starting another thread for this, but there probably wouldn't be enough replies to make it worthwhile; have any P&Bers run, or seriously considered running, for political office? I know we've had Ad Lib, and I'm sure Granny Danger mentioned being a Labour councillor. Guy I went to college with almost raised the £500 to stand as a candidate for the 'Paint Your Penis Green' Party. He just wanted to hear the Returning Officer read the name out on election night. Bless.Did Reynard not run as a Tory at some point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) Some of the comments on here reflect the age of posters and their failure to realise that the political landscape changes. At one point the SNP where pretty right wing and led by a religious fruit loop. Most posters on here would have found it impossible to support the SNP in those days. Its testament to those who tried to radicalise the organisation and who were expelled for their efforts including Alex Salmond. There efforts eventually paid off leading to the SNP that we now know. Whatever people’s perception of Labour now and then, their were many local Labour constituencies far with more radical agendas than the SNP, including support for a Scottish Parliament, though the failure to win control of the party apparatus and the desperation to end 18 years of Tory rule led to Blairism and everything that followed. Edited May 29, 2019 by Granny Danger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Labour, Natural Law Party, Green. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 On 28/05/2019 at 13:37, HTG said: UK 1. Conservative - Labour looked a shambles under Michael Foot and I was only wee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) Labour then SNP. It’s funny how times change though I was happy to get rid of the Tory’s then couldn’t stand Labour within a decade. Still not convinced totally by the SNP but at least they try to do what’s right for Scotland. I think Labour were finished when John Smith died. Robin Cook was the last MP I had respect for. They sold out for a quick gain and killed their own party. Edited May 29, 2019 by D.A.F.C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Savage Henry said: Did Reynard not run as a Tory at some point? Presumably not recently. You'd like to think they'd turn down somebody irrationally screaming about evil muslims AND threatening to take to the streets with their shotgun in the event of Scottish independence. One or the other, fine, but not both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybhoy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Only Labour, didn't vote at all in 2005 and 2010 elections due to the Iraq war but wasn't voting for anyone else so abstained. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, Thomas Finney said: Labour (1997 only) BNP (every other time) In USA, only Republican "Nigel" was a bit obvious bud. But i'm sure you'll do a far better job concealing yourself on here this time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I seem to remember voting SSP at one point but looking it up, I think I'm making that up. My maw stood for them in 2003 but they probably had had to disband the regiment by the time I was old enough. Most likely it was Solidarity, the Tommy Sheridan splitters. I think I voted SNP in 2007, I remember my brother and I being quite excited about Salmond taking over. By the 2011 Scottish election I was SNP for both list and constituency for sure but I voted labour in the by-election, falling for the 'Vote labour to make sure the Tories don't get in' fallacy for the last time. I've been SNP ever since, apart from a vote for the greens on the list the last time out (I think - really wish I had a better memory) I'll say 4, final answer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Don't know how you remember further back tbh, can hardly remember who I voted for last week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Calling other posters "son" is the domain of thick Rangers fans and aging gammon nonces [emoji38] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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