AB1872 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, stressball said: Benfica rested players from what I recall. You should be beating Braga and Red Star. Not sure why you’re all spitting your dummies out because I’ve said they’re crap and you should progress. You’re a better team than them. They didn’t rest players. They were actually spent tens of millions that summer to improve their squad. We drew with them twice but outplayed them over both legs and we topped the group. Unless you think they wanted second place? My nieces husband is a huge Benfica fan and they are still shocked at how well we played Standard Liege were a very decent team Galatasary Braga knocked out Monaco in the last round. Monaco beat PSG 3-0 a few days after that defeat. Maybe they are mugs Red Star are several levels above anything we meet domestically Sparta Prague are no slouches It’s embarrassing trying to belittle these clubs. IF and it’s a big IF we get past Braga it will be a fantastic result for Rangers and the Scottish league Then we have Leipzig or Atalanta. I suppose they’ll be crap? Rangers are by no means better than these teams. We have punched above our weight over the last few seasons in Europa. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 8 hours ago, bennett said: Have we ever played a team in Europe who weren't crap? Celtic. Obvs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressball Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, AB1872 said: They didn’t rest players. They were actually spent tens of millions that summer to improve their squad. We drew with them twice but outplayed them over both legs and we topped the group. Unless you think they wanted second place? My nieces husband is a huge Benfica fan and they are still shocked at how well we played Standard Liege were a very decent team Galatasary Braga knocked out Monaco in the last round. Monaco beat PSG 3-0 a few days after that defeat. Maybe they are mugs Red Star are several levels above anything we meet domestically Sparta Prague are no slouches It’s embarrassing trying to belittle these clubs. IF and it’s a big IF we get past Braga it will be a fantastic result for Rangers and the Scottish league Then we have Leipzig or Atalanta. I suppose they’ll be crap? Rangers are by no means better than these teams. We have punched above our weight over the last few seasons in Europa. When did you play Benfica in Europe this season? Honesty just stop changing the narrative. If Red Star are better than anything you’ve played domestically why did we smash you? Accept that you SHOULD be beating them and Braga and move the f**k on. Edited April 13, 2022 by stressball -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 “A fantastic result for the Scottish league” In what way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, Melanius Mullarkay said: “A fantastic result for the Scottish league” In what way? Will boost the League coefficient Will boost the profile of the league I believe Rangers European success in recent seasons has guaranteed a third club from our league group stage football But you knew this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, stressball said: When did you play Benfica in Europe this season? Honesty just stop changing the narrative. If Red Star are better than anything you’ve played domestically why did we smash you? Accept that you SHOULD be beating them and Braga and move the f**k on. Ffs you’ve won two OF league games in about 3 years. If we win at Parkhead it’ll be two wins a piece this season. How many knockout games in European football have Celtic won in the last 10 years? The teams we are playing are way above the level of Celtic! They are way above the level of Rangers and why we are punching above our weight Its embarrassing trying to downplay Rangers European results in recent years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 It's been a regular occurrence the last few years, this narrative. Rangers draw someone that are deemed by some to be mince. If we then beat them, ah, they were mince so you were expected to beat them. No credit given. We drew Slavia Prague last year and it was another case of "easy draw, so lucky". They put us out and it then changed to "first quality side you faced you crumbled". No credit given. It changed when we drew Dortmund slightly. We were told now that we were going to be facing a quality side we'd be papped out. We beat them and the narrative changes to "the worst Dortmund side in recent memory". It's very, very predictable. As I said, this is a view held by some and I am generalising. I know some P&B'ers have given Rangers credit over that period. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 If we are being honest Braga was possibly the best draw we could have got at such a stage of European Competition. Then again they got here by knocking out Monaco! Im sure Braga will believe drawing Rangers is the best possible draw at this stage of European Competition but we got there by knocking out Red Star and Dortmund Both teams deserve to be there and deserve to be respected 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 "No one likes us, we don't care", say neediest fans in Scotland 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I’m very consistent about this. Rangers are fucking mince. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, AB1872 said: If we are being honest Braga was possibly the best draw we could have got at such a stage of European Competition. Then again they got here by knocking out Monaco! Im sure Braga will believe drawing Rangers is the best possible draw at this stage of European Competition but we got there by knocking out Red Star and Dortmund Both teams deserve to be there and deserve to be respected It absolutely was the best draw we could've hoped for, you just see too many people confuse "best draw" with "easy draw". Particularly fans of a club that haven't won a euro knockout tie since Tony Blair was Prime Minister! 13 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: "No one likes us, we don't care", say neediest fans in Scotland It's not being needy, it's disagreeing with shite opinions about the quality of particular teams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Lundstram, Jack and Bassey should all be available. Helander out for the season though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, AJF said: Lundstram, Jack and Bassey should all be available. Helander out for the season though. I notice Ramsey did the players press conference so he probably starts in place of Kamara 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, Henrik's tongue said: I’m very consistent about this. Rangers are fucking mince. Fucking Tony Blair Best line I’ve read in quite a while. I must apologise to AJF. I originally misjudged him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) On 13/04/2022 at 09:43, AB1872 said: Ffs you’ve won two OF league games in about 3 years. If we win at Parkhead it’ll be two wins a piece this season. How many knockout games in European football have Celtic won in the last 10 years? The teams we are playing are way above the level of Celtic! They are way above the level of Rangers and why we are punching above our weight Its embarrassing trying to downplay Rangers European results in recent years. You talk about changing and controlling narratives but only talk about knockout games. The group stages are still an important part of these tournaments. The teams you have played above your level were Lyon and Dortmund, everyone else i would expect Rangers to be competitive against or beat. I'd also expect Celtic to be competitive against them too but that expectation doesn't always translate into results. Edited April 14, 2022 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: You talk about changing and controlling narratives but only talk about knockout games. The group stages are still an important part of these tournaments. The teams you have played above your level were Lyon and Dortmund, everyone else I would expect Rangers to be competitive against or beat. I'd also expect Celtic to be competitive against them too but that expectation doesn't always translate into results. I have to disagree to an extent there. If we look at all the teams we've faced since the Progres fiasco, even just in the group stages onwards, we have: Villarreal, Rapid Vienna, Spartak Moscow, Porto, Young Boys, Feyenoord, Braga, Bayer Leverkusen, Benfica, Standard Liege, Lech Poznan, Antwerp, Slavia Prague, Lyon, Sparta Prague, Brondby, Dortmund, Red Star and Braga again. I think it's a stretch to say out of all those teams that only Lyon and Dortmund were above our level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 40 minutes ago, AJF said: I have to disagree to an extent there. If we look at all the teams we've faced since the Progres fiasco, even just in the group stages onwards, we have: Villarreal, Rapid Vienna, Spartak Moscow, Porto, Young Boys, Feyenoord, Braga, Bayer Leverkusen, Benfica, Standard Liege, Lech Poznan, Antwerp, Slavia Prague, Lyon, Sparta Prague, Brondby, Dortmund, Red Star and Braga again. I think it's a stretch to say out of all those teams that only Lyon and Dortmund were above our level. I was referring to this season sorry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Anyone got a score prediction for tonight? I wouldn't be surprised if it goes to penalties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 07/04/2022 at 21:58, Lord Snooty said: Rangers will pummel this team at Ibrox. Not sure I share our confidence, your lordship, but we'll have a right Beano in Tory South Bucks if we manage to pull off a win... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Saintsible Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 13/04/2022 at 08:54, AB1872 said: Will boost the League coefficient Will boost the profile of the league I believe Rangers European success in recent seasons has guaranteed a third club from our league group stage football But you knew this I’d rather have a competitive, sectarian free league than an extra European spot. The non Old Firm clubs need to resign en masse and start a new league. The Old Firm have been hanging on our coat tails for too long. And you know this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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