SandyCromarty Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 14 hours ago, NotThePars said: The Tories don’t have an ideology anymore and no policies. The only way they probably think they can take on a Labour Party who have a policy platform is someone with a personality AKA Boris. FWIW the only Tory member I know is leaving if he wins but there’s no chance he’s representative of the membership at large. And so it is for all political parties presently as they all are blindly focussed on Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 And so it is for all political parties presently as they all are blindly focussed on Brexit. Labour have a full manifesto of policies and an ideological outlook. Their problem is the reverse in that they’re struggling to have a coherent focus on Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Labour have a full manifesto of policies and an ideological outlook. Edited June 15, 2019 by Tibbermoresaint Too many outlooks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I'm no fan of Owen Jones, but he does have a point... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 15 hours ago, Cerberus said: If Boris wins the leadership contest then it will kill the Brexit party. The hard Brexit Tories will go back to voting Tory. Labour have no chance with that personality vacuum in charge. He’s worse than May. Agreed. Before May was ousted, Farage was planning to stand in Uxbridge at the general election. He wanted to split the Tory vote and help Labour beat Johnson. If Boris is elected PM, Farage would not dare to fight him. If Corbyn is ousted before the general election, another Momentum-supported candidate will succeed him. That will only happen if the far left want to get rid of him. McDonnell is Corbyn's most likely successor and he is as unelectable as Corbyn. The most likely scenario is that the Lib Dems take lots of seats from both main parties. A hung Parliament is the most likely outcome. There is no way that the Lib Dems will go back into coalition with Boris. It would be suicide for them to go into a coalition with Corbyn or McDonnell. So what happens then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Fronting all my money on a Labour majority at the next election now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Agreed. Before May was ousted, Farage was planning to stand in Uxbridge at the general election. He wanted to split the Tory vote and help Labour beat Johnson. If Boris is elected PM, Farage would not dare to fight him. If Corbyn is ousted before the general election, another Momentum-supported candidate will succeed him. That will only happen if the far left want to get rid of him. McDonnell is Corbyn's most likely successor and he is as unelectable as Corbyn. The most likely scenario is that the Lib Dems take lots of seats from both main parties. A hung Parliament is the most likely outcome. There is no way that the Lib Dems will go back into coalition with Boris. It would be suicide for them to go into a coalition with Corbyn or McDonnell. So what happens then? “Far left”. Too much Daily Mail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: The most likely scenario is that the Lib Dems take lots of seats from both main parties. A hung Parliament is the most likely outcome. There is no way that the Lib Dems will go back into coalition with Boris. It would be suicide for them to go into a coalition with Corbyn or McDonnell. So what happens then? The Queen will invite Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP to form a caretaker Govt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: “Far left”. Too much Daily Mail. Tell that to the Labour MPs, especially those who are Jewish, who have been threatened and intimidated by the Momentum thugs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Tell that to the Labour MPs, especially those who are Jewish, who have been threatened and intimidated by the Momentum thugs. Even if either of those were true why is that “far left”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 You have to laugh at the idea that Labour has suddenly become a safe haven for thugs given that there was literally a BBC satire devoted to the Blair government's bullying culture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, NotThePars said: You have to laugh at the idea that Labour has suddenly become a safe haven for thugs given that there was literally a BBC satire devoted to the Blair government's bullying culture. Shut it Love Actually, do you want me to hole punch your face? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 The Queen will invite Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP to form a caretaker Govt.Imagine the SNP governing England.The utter Gammon seethe would be superb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Imagine the SNP governing England. The utter Gammon seethe would be superb Union of equals etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Bishop Briggs said: Tell that to the Labour MPs, especially those who are Jewish, who have been threatened and intimidated by the Momentum thugs. Go on, provide some specific examples. I've heard a lot about this, but I've yet to see hard, tangible evidence of exactly what has been going on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMDP Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Bishop Briggs said: Tell that to the Labour MPs, especially those who are Jewish, who have been threatened and intimidated by the Momentum thugs. I think Corbyn is as useless as the next guy but you genuinely don't think that's true, do you? I think there are some individual c***s that hold despicable views in the Labour party. I think that of all parties though. Do you believe labour have a bigger problem than Tory islamophobia for example? Are you the guy that lives/works in UAE btw? -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Tell that to the Labour MPs, especially those who are Jewish, who have been threatened and intimidated by the Momentum thugs. ^margaret hodge found -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Go on, provide some specific examples. I've heard a lot about this, but I've yet to see hard, tangible evidence of exactly what has been going on. Don't say that, the boys in the Israeli Embassy will lose their Yom Kippur bonus. Whoops, done it again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 https://twitter.com/MeanwhileScotia/status/1138382487875391488 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Go on, provide some specific examples. I've heard a lot about this, but I've yet to see hard, tangible evidence of exactly what has been going on. This is a good point. I seem to recall Granny Danger repeatedly asking for examples of rife anti-Semitism in the Labour Party. Pretty sure he only got a couple of tweets as "evidence". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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