Scott-Replay Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Announce Clyde fan Euromillions win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Jags Please Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Unfortunately dreams dont count as solutions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bully_wee Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 Anyone who wanted to own and operate the club would approach it whether it was or wasn't formally on the market. It's all well and good calling for the entirety of the board to be binned but the simple fact is we'd need folk to fill those positions and it's been clear for a long time that there is virtually nobody - connected to the club or otherwise - with the requisite interest and/or competencies to do so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Clyde FC Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 36 minutes ago, Only one David Marsh said: Honestly behind the scenes is absolute mess at board level in fighting feeding the egos of others Alexander is a fucking snake, why Taylor is still about I don't know, Never seen anything like it. I left before FT and overtook our commercial director before the Whirlies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullyweehutch Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 If anyone was to buy the club they would want majority shareholding. CIC would need to go and it does need to go. It's failed as we have to small a fan base to support it. It helped us out a bad situation but now it's a hindrance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Clyde FC Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 30 minutes ago, RutherGlen said: I really don't have the answer but could we formally put the club on the market to guage whether there are any potential buyers out there? I understand that would need to be voted through by the owners but I think it's definitely worth looking at. I don't feel we have anything to lose at this point. You never know...there may be a multimillionaire out there looking for a new plaything. Billy Carmichael 2.0, come on down! We need someone with a whole lot of money and no brains. No ground, no players, dwindling fanbase and non business people with their hands on the levers...Not attractive to many. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullyweehutch Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Dino Jim saying in his post match essentially that's he's threw the towel in and didn't think he could turn it around when he took the job. Brilliant thanks you relic of the game. If he doesn't give a f**k why should we as paying fans who spend their time and money following the team. I've honestly never felt so disconnected and angry at the club. Finished. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I don't know if the concept of a CIC is itself bad; there are other teams that make fan ownership work. It should be scalable to our level. Clearly we are doing it wrong. Can anyone explain what purpose our current set-up actually serves? It doesn't generate finance, and it doesn't engage the fanbase. My consistent opinion is that saying Sack the Board is lazy; there will be people involved with useful skills and experience. However, blatantly we lack ideas and direction. For example, we were told that we had a massive financial hole to fill due to giving Danny Lennon a budget we couldn't afford. What effort/initiatives have been put in place to fill this void? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLClyde Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) Duffy sounds like a beaten man in that interview, which to be honest is a bit ridiculous given his short stint in charge. He says his objective was to make us better, there’s no difference since Lennon left. I actually thought Duffy was quite quiet on the touch line today, he doesn’t give off the impression he’s that bothered. Edited January 7 by SLClyde 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, SLClyde said: Duffy sounds like a beaten man in that interview, which to be honest is a bit ridiculous given his short stint in charge. He says his objective was to make us better, there’s no difference since Lennon left. I actually thought Duffy was quite quiet on the touch line today, he doesn’t give off the impression he’s that bothered. Duffy jacked it in and lost all enthusiasm whilst at Dumbarton. He then took an easy wage coaching us whilst Hopkin was in charge but didn’t bet on the fact he’d be made interim boss after about four league games. Did well initially and earned the job full time only to become the most boring and passive manager we’ve ever had. There was zero personality with him, he didn’t care in his interviews and to be honest I think a lot of Ayr fans forget he was actually our manager given his spell was so short. I can’t ever remember any particular comments he made in his time with us nor do I have any fond memories of games he managed us in. He’s a complete bore of a manager and simply wasted everyone’s time at Ayr. But thanks to the idiots on Scoreboard and his media pals, his name will always be touted about when jobs come up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-Replay Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Tbf to Jim Duffy, I wouldn’t be surprised if his GP told him to pack in the football after his heart attack. Certainly wouldn’t be me wasting time managing Clyde at the moment. Again, you must ask why our board felt he was the best man to take us forward? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutherGlen Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Scott-Replay said: Tbf to Jim Duffy, I wouldn’t be surprised if his GP told him to pack in the football after his heart attack. Certainly wouldn’t be me wasting time managing Clyde at the moment. Again, you must ask why our board felt he was the best man to take us forward? I suspect it was your classic case of "Better the devil you know..." - I'd much rather see us take a punt on someone with zero experience providing they had a bit of enthusiasm and perhaps some new ideas. I wish no ill will against Duffy but he obviously isn't up to the job. ETA - I honestly think we could have played that game today with no manager and the result would have been more or less the same. Hell, we may even have played a bit better with no manager. Edited January 7 by RutherGlen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only one David Marsh Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 31 minutes ago, David W said: I don't know if the concept of a CIC is itself bad; there are other teams that make fan ownership work. It should be scalable to our level. Clearly we are doing it wrong. Can anyone explain what purpose our current set-up actually serves? It doesn't generate finance, and it doesn't engage the fanbase. My consistent opinion is that saying Sack the Board is lazy; there will be people involved with useful skills and experience. However, blatantly we lack ideas and direction. For example, we were told that we had a massive financial hole to fill due to giving Danny Lennon a budget we couldn't afford. What effort/initiatives have been put in place to fill this void? The Board 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignoramus Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On the finance question, we hear so much from the board about how they need fans to come forward to raise money, either via events or donations etc. Why on Earth would anyone seek to make that effort and investment on such a poor product and on a board that have consistently proving they can’t be trusted to make the right call on important matters? To use a poker analogy, all of the chips - and the car and house keys - are in the middle of the table with Crownpoint. The board themselves have admitted this but notwithstanding the obvious risks of having no Plan B, building a stadium doesn’t just make the problems go away. In fact, it makes the need of having an effective team in place to secure investment and a plan for the vision of the club even more pivotal. Does anyone trust the board has such a vision when they have such a poor record so far? It’s laughable when the chairman and board dispute the club is in a complete malaise. The manager doesn’t care, a lot of the players know they aren’t good enough or don’t care and the entire narrative is that we should just suck up the fact that we have a club and not have any ambitions to actually improve it. I don’t think that people in here fearing for the future if Clyde are relegated into L2 this season are exaggerating, there is a distinct stench of an East Stirling style existence here and it’s heartbreaking. My work means I haven’t actually been to a game since the last win - the Kelty game - and I feel more disconnected from the club than I ever been since I started following. Apologies for the long read on a Saturday night, but it’s a slow death and I needed to vent 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccanee Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Due to attempting (without much success) to play a bit of football myself, I've had the good luck in only having to watch us twice this season. What I will say is this, I have played a part in, and watched, games at amateur level in which a lot of the top players appear to be as good, if not better than what we currently have. I totally appreciate the "levels" to the game and whatnot, but I do genuinely feel that the best of amateur football is now akin to the McDonald/Maitland revolution, from which a lot of the best junior players were sourced. Bag Duffy, get a young coach with drive and a bit of balls in, and give a half dozen or so top amateur boys a go until the summer. Might not save us, but we might just create a pathway and links that could serve us well going forwards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Scott-Replay said: Tbf to Jim Duffy, I wouldn’t be surprised if his GP told him to pack in the football after his heart attack. I think you may be right. The GP has obviously told him to avoid excitement. Watching his team play certainly ticks that box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullyweeno1 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 41 minutes ago, maccanee said: Due to attempting (without much success) to play a bit of football myself, I've had the good luck in only having to watch us twice this season. What I will say is this, I have played a part in, and watched, games at amateur level in which a lot of the top players appear to be as good, if not better than what we currently have. I totally appreciate the "levels" to the game and whatnot, but I do genuinely feel that the best of amateur football is now akin to the McDonald/Maitland revolution, from which a lot of the best junior players were sourced. Bag Duffy, get a young coach with drive and a bit of balls in, and give a half dozen or so top amateur boys a go until the summer. Might not save us, but we might just create a pathway and links that could serve us well going forwards. Good shout I would give 11 top amateur players a shot til end of season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundskeeperWillie Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 38 minutes ago, Ignoramus said: On the finance question, we hear so much from the board about how they need fans to come forward to raise money, either via events or donations etc. Why on Earth would anyone seek to make that effort and investment on such a poor product and on a board that have consistently proving they can’t be trusted to make the right call on important matters? To use a poker analogy, all of the chips - and the car and house keys - are in the middle of the table with Crownpoint. The board themselves have admitted this but notwithstanding the obvious risks of having no Plan B, building a stadium doesn’t just make the problems go away. In fact, it makes the need of having an effective team in place to secure investment and a plan for the vision of the club even more pivotal. Does anyone trust the board has such a vision when they have such a poor record so far? It’s laughable when the chairman and board dispute the club is in a complete malaise. The manager doesn’t care, a lot of the players know they aren’t good enough or don’t care and the entire narrative is that we should just suck up the fact that we have a club and not have any ambitions to actually improve it. I don’t think that people in here fearing for the future if Clyde are relegated into L2 this season are exaggerating, there is a distinct stench of an East Stirling style existence here and it’s heartbreaking. My work means I haven’t actually been to a game since the last win - the Kelty game - and I feel more disconnected from the club than I ever been since I started following. Apologies for the long read on a Saturday night, but it’s a slow death and I needed to vent Completely agree with all of this. Given the budget we have, the perception that we are a completely rudderless ship and our current homeless status, it's hard not to contend that it feels like we are the next club to sink down the leagues faster than some Old Firm fans spit out SFA conspiracy theories. I've said it before, I have a degree of sympathy for the board, given that a) it feels like no-one else will do it and b) some of the off-field stuff they've had to contend with. But, the perception of lack of direction comes directly from them. It's been mentioned elsewhere, but constant appeals to the fans to keep the funding flowing will only be met with a favourable response for a limited time before people get fed up having to constantly dig into the pocket to provide funding that, in reality, a commercially aware board would actually either attempt to do or at the very least try and make the club commercially promotable to businesses etc. Sorry to say, another golf day, or similar, ain't gonna dig us out of the hole we are finding ourselves in. If, at the end of the season, no matter where we end up, the decision is made that the return of Jim Duffy is a longer-term arrangement, then that would signal to a lot of fans that the club's only ambition is to stay in the leagues. However, it would be folly at this moment to do anything drastic, as realistically we've no chance of staying up via anything other than the play-off route. Any attempts to experiment radically sadly won't help. A freshening up would help, but the concern must be that if we do have money, as the chairman alluded to, do we risk spending now. Because if we do and we still end up relegated, are we not just risking hammering another nail in the coffin. It's really sad the way things are panning out right now, and clearly no-one wants this situation. But whatever happens at the end of the season, that would be the right opportunity to completely rethink the club's strategy and who is leading said strategy. Binning, or reforming radically, the CIC would be a good start 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigGuy Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Where did the big wages go that we used to pay a certain former player? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullyweeno1 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, TheBigGuy said: Where did the big wages go that we used to pay a certain former player? Understand it was 3rd party investor that paid said certain former player and when he left the investment was withdrawn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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