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Just my opinion but I’d say Parry, Cuddihy, Livingstone, Cunningham, Gomis and Splaine. Obviously the boys we had on loan McAllister and Jamieson also who I’d love to have back. 
I’d say Ray Grant is league one level I don’t know much about the others as I’ve not seen them play yet so I’ll reserve judgement on them. Apart from Lyon who I don’t think is but I’d probably at a push rather have him than Docherty.

 

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16 minutes ago, Brian Carrigan said:

He's not League 1 level, but who was for us last season? Who have we signed so far that you'd deem League 1 level? Most of the boys we released have returned from whence they came - several levels below. He was clearly one of our better performers and a good influence in the changing room. I'm not being sentimental, Kevin Nicol was apparently just as good a boy to have around but I wouldn't be touching him this season with a shitty stick.

We've signed similar quality this season so far. We could have done far worse than re-signing Docherty.

Fwiw, I don't WANT to be signing him either - but that's simply the pool we're fishing in now. Players of substandard quality that we hope our relatively experienced manager can get a tune out of.

normal service has been resumed Docherty is a great guy and helped us last season but deemed not good enough for clyde going forward.

we wish him every success at Edinburgh city and I'm sure we will target him when we play against them for his lack of pace.

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24 minutes ago, JIMMY CHOO said:

 

we wish him every success at Edinburgh city 

Surely FC Edinburgh (unless he's going to sit in the Social Club and get pissed on a Saturday afternoon. Which is not a bad idea really)

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36 minutes ago, tamthebam said:

Surely FC Edinburgh (unless he's going to sit in the Social Club and get pissed on a Saturday afternoon. Which is not a bad idea really)

I think he's a good signing for Edinburgh city as they have just came up and he has loads of experience but Clyde as a club need to at least try and recruit players who are more mobile and  decent players that's the challenge if you re-sign players like Docherty you will play them and the club will not make progress on the field. It all goes back to the poor  budget and it will be an unremarkable squad reliant on the coaching  staff getting the best out of ordinary players.

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1 hour ago, Clyde85 said:

Just my opinion but I’d say Parry, Cuddihy, Livingstone, Cunningham, Gomis and Splaine. Obviously the boys we had on loan McAllister and Jamieson also who I’d love to have back. 
I’d say Ray Grant is league one level I don’t know much about the others as I’ve not seen them play yet so I’ll reserve judgement on them. Apart from Lyon who I don’t think is but I’d probably at a push rather have him than Docherty.

 

Sorry, allow me to elaborate. I meant more 'who showed up as being L1 quality last season' as opposed to 'who SHOULD be L1 quality'.

Parry, Livingstone and Gomis I'll give you. Splaine I do really like but he's extremely frustrating. He had a few games towards the end of the season and scaterred around where he turned up very well, but I feel like on average he was lacking. Two goals in 35 appearances for a box-to-box centre midfielder is poor too.  Cuddihy and Cunningham made around the same number of appearances last season as David Goodwillie, who left in January. They just didn't play enough games and when they did, they were poor for the most part because ultimately they were so far behind in terms of match sharpness. Cunningham had 4 goals in 25 across all competitions, all against East Fife across two games who were ultimately relegated. That isn't the form of a forward player who was playing at the required level.

Grant certainly WAS L1 level but couldn't get a game for a bang average Stirling team last season in the league below. I'm happy he's back but I'll reserve judgement. We're told Lyon has improved as a player - again, I'll reserve judgement. The other signings for the most part are not an upgrade on what we had last season. As much as we all dig at Rob Jones, he scored 4 and assisted 6 last season. Duthie scored 6 with no assists, Allan scored 3 with 4 assists. We all know Jones isn't L1 standard, so is signing players with similar, or arguably worse relevant stats an upgrade?

My point here is, we used around 30 players last season and (imho) about 4 showed up as being the quality required in the league. I'll repeat, we can do far worse than Mark Docherty.

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1 hour ago, Brian Carrigan said:

Sorry, allow me to elaborate. I meant more 'who showed up as being L1 quality last season' as opposed to 'who SHOULD be L1 quality'.

Parry, Livingstone and Gomis I'll give you. Splaine I do really like but he's extremely frustrating. He had a few games towards the end of the season and scaterred around where he turned up very well, but I feel like on average he was lacking. Two goals in 35 appearances for a box-to-box centre midfielder is poor too.  Cuddihy and Cunningham made around the same number of appearances last season as David Goodwillie, who left in January. They just didn't play enough games and when they did, they were poor for the most part because ultimately they were so far behind in terms of match sharpness. Cunningham had 4 goals in 25 across all competitions, all against East Fife across two games who were ultimately relegated. That isn't the form of a forward player who was playing at the required level.

Grant certainly WAS L1 level but couldn't get a game for a bang average Stirling team last season in the league below. I'm happy he's back but I'll reserve judgement. We're told Lyon has improved as a player - again, I'll reserve judgement. The other signings for the most part are not an upgrade on what we had last season. As much as we all dig at Rob Jones, he scored 4 and assisted 6 last season. Duthie scored 6 with no assists, Allan scored 3 with 4 assists. We all know Jones isn't L1 standard, so is signing players with similar, or arguably worse relevant stats an upgrade?

My point here is, we used around 30 players last season and (imho) about 4 showed up as being the quality required in the league. I'll repeat, we can do far worse than Mark Docherty.

Hi Brian i think you must be a lawyer and you make a great case for mark Docherty but he has been deemed not good enough by the management and by  many on this chat. The truth is he is a good player but his legs have gone and being a good  reading of the  game can only get you so far. Its a shame as by all accounts he is one of life's good guys but football is cruel.

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Docherty wasn't an issue for us after a shaky start but he also contributed to us having to sit and defend in our own box for the last 60 minutes of a game. 

If you could give Livingstone Docherty's knowledge and calmness, then you'd have an excellent player. Alas, neither is good enough to play left back at this level without causing issues elsewhere on the pitch. 

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1 hour ago, David W said:

Docherty wasn't an issue for us after a shaky start but he also contributed to us having to sit and defend in our own box for the last 60 minutes of a game. 

If you could give Livingstone Docherty's knowledge and calmness, then you'd have an excellent player. Alas, neither is good enough to play left back at this level without causing issues elsewhere on the pitch. 

It will be interesting to see where Adam Livingstone ends up but your right not a left back and  not a left winger. Bench warmer at best

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Mark Lamont the most wasted player since Scott Ferguson, if he was to take football a lot more seriously he would go on to have a great career in the game unfortunately not the case

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I'm on holiday in Spain and not really giving a fig, but McColl of PT was on Radio Scot on Saturday, saying they had resumed training and he was hopeful of a couple more signings, Including a goalie....they're top 4 of championship and no better off than us in respect of signings.  

I've said for years that we need to be looking at a type of part time player.  We need to find a USP to attract players.   We have had pharmacists, teachers, salesmen, brickies, postmen  and bankers.  Theses guys are far better 'employees' than guys like Lamont, who never quite made it, but believe they're the real deal.

 

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Mark Lamont the most wasted player since Scott Ferguson, if he was to take football a lot more seriously he would go on to have a great career in the game unfortunately not the case


I just didn't see this Mark Lamont.

I only saw the one that, performance wise, rarely turned up and struggled with fitness.

There's a reason he's now in the WoS league.
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1 hour ago, BullyWeeLad said:

Mark Lamont the most wasted player since Scott Ferguson, if he was to take football a lot more seriously he would go on to have a great career in the game unfortunately not the case

Unfortunately skill will only take you so far in football.

You also have to have the right dedication and commitment.

Case of what could have been as he certainly was skillful enough but by all accounts just couldnt get himself fit with us and others as it now seems.

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So do we see an apology coming from Shay Logan in respect to the club statement and consequently the fact he was talking nonsense?
Wont hold my breath!
Absolutely no chance he or Cove will apologise. Fully expect them to double down on the club and talk to one of the shit rags
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The fans have been let down by the board, the racism claim was made very publicly on 8th Jan, the correct story of the shout was known by all the next day, it has took the board over 5 months ( and during close season) to come out with a statement which will probably only be heard by our own support.

 

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20 minutes ago, shawfielder said:

The fans have been let down by the board, the racism claim was made very publicly on 8th Jan, the correct story of the shout was known by all the next day, it has took the board over 5 months ( and during close season) to come out with a statement which will probably only be heard by our own support.

 

The people on the board are volunteers and have jobs and personal lives away from the club. The claim wasn’t even reported to the club or authorities so strictly speaking didn’t have to investigate, but have anyway.

Taking the time to do it is no bad thing, it’s been dealt with thoroughly by the looks of it. 

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37 minutes ago, SLClyde said:

The people on the board are volunteers and have jobs and personal lives away from the club. The claim wasn’t even reported to the club or authorities so strictly speaking didn’t have to investigate, but have anyway.

Taking the time to do it is no bad thing, it’s been dealt with thoroughly by the looks of it. 

Proud day to be a Clyde supporter.

fair play to the board and our fans for dealing with the racism claim.Dangerous waters to be sailing in but the board met it head on.Can you now sign some decent players😎

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10 hours ago, FREDDYFRY said:

So do we see an apology coming from Shay Logan in respect to the club statement and consequently the fact he was talking nonsense?

Wont hold my breath!

I’m sure he will have plenty to say about it on Twitter like he usually does!

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No report ANYWHERE other than on our OS. 

It Will go un-noticed as nobody cares about us, he certainly won’t pick it up as it’s highly embarrassing for him.
 

Shame as an accusation like that will stick unless the facts are more widely communicated. 

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