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Some of the whataboutery from some posters on here would put Rangers and Celtic supporters to shame.

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31 minutes ago, Bully Wee Clyde FC said:

From the Courier today.

Says Clyde can't necessarily wriggle out of the loan deal.  On top of this self inflicted lobotomy, we've lost money too!

Unbelievable Jeff.

 

https://t.co/i57VtjbFwe

I honestly find it hard to believe we are putting anything more than a pittance towards his wages.  I mean surely he was guaranteed his Raith Rovers money and they couldn't get out of that so why would we pay anything more than a token amount (or maybe some bonuses that he'll now not get)?   (I'm well aware that there is one potentially obvious answer and it is that we are fucking idiots.)

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43 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:

Whilst Leigh Griffith’s is a hugely undesireable character, he was cleared of any wrong doing with regards sending messages to minors. Completely unlike the predator a large amount of your fans and fucking morons on social media are defending to the hilt. 

A Police Scotland spokeswoman said: "In relation to recent reporting regarding alleged inappropriate communications online, a full assessment has been carried out and it’s been established there is no criminality."

 

Did you no see the screenshots? Convicted or not he was begging wee lassies for nude pictures. 

 

BTW I am not here to defend DGW or the likes etc, just pointing out the double standards in this situation. 

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He was never charged

Neither was Goodwillie. NLC are setting a precedent, that is potentially difficult to return from. Leigh Griffiths was convicted, in a criminal court, of racial abuse. He has been accused, although not convicted of, soliciting a child under 16. If that isn’t an undesirable individual I don’t know what is.

I hope NLC think seriously about allowing Griffiths access to Broadwood tomorrow given the precedent now set by them.
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11 minutes ago, Cannibal said:

I honestly find it hard to believe we are putting anything more than a pittance towards his wages.  I mean surely he was guaranteed his Raith Rovers money and they couldn't get out of that so why would we pay anything more than a token amount (or maybe some bonuses that he'll now not get)?   (I'm well aware that there is one potentially obvious answer and it is that we are fucking idiots.)

I thought the same, if we've somehow lost money from the Goodwillie saga compared to the position we were in a week ago then the board need to answer for it. Should've bitten Raith's hand off for the ~£50k and never looked back. Now we've potentially squandered some of that money, made our club look even worse than Raith and we're right back where we were once we sold him (in footballing terms) but with a worse relationship with our landlord. All in a week's work, smashing.

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a slight improvement on you harassing women online for having the audacity to feel empowered enough to take a stand against a rapist, Adam. 

Haha, I’ll ride the bus, please show me what you mean.
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I honestly find it hard to believe we are putting anything more than a pittance towards his wages.  I mean surely he was guaranteed his Raith Rovers money and they couldn't get out of that so why would we pay anything more than a token amount (or maybe some bonuses that he'll now not get)?   (I'm well aware that there is one potentially obvious answer and it is that we are fucking idiots.)

Said similar elsewhere. No club in Scotland bar Clyde (and I only mean that in the sense they’d had him before) would take him. And Raith can’t afford to pay him off. So for me this was far more about trying to repair the reputational damage (by sending him off somewhere/anywhere) than trying to recoup costs. They needed shot quick, Clyde would know this and I hope negotiated as such.
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51 minutes ago, Adam said:


Neither was Goodwillie. NLC are setting a precedent, that is potentially difficult to return from. Leigh Griffiths was convicted, in a criminal court, of racial abuse. He has been accused, although not convicted of, soliciting a child under 16. If that isn’t an undesirable individual I don’t know what is.

I hope NLC think seriously about allowing Griffiths access to Broadwood tomorrow given the precedent now set by them.

 

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Mate, I totally agree, but surely if we’re looking at saying Ally Love is undesirable, without a criminal conviction, then we will be saying Griffiths is a step beyond that?
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53 minutes ago, Adam said:


Neither was Goodwillie. NLC are setting a precedent, that is potentially difficult to return from. Leigh Griffiths was convicted, in a criminal court, of racial abuse. He has been accused, although not convicted of, soliciting a child under 16. If that isn’t an undesirable individual I don’t know what is.

I hope NLC think seriously about allowing Griffiths access to Broadwood tomorrow given the precedent now set by them.

My point was Griffith was not charged with any offence related to children. Given that he can’t be labelled the way he has been above. I’m not trying to defend him as an individual. Look at it this way if a neighbour of yours accused you of offences against underage children and you were not charged with it would you be happy being labelled that way ?. 

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1 minute ago, Adam said:


Mate, I totally agree, but surely if we’re looking at saying Ally Love is undesirable, without a criminal conviction, then we will be saying Griffiths is a step beyond that?

So are you saying NLC should ban any fan who also has a criminal conviction? That’ll take out the majority of Cumbernauld.

Some amount of whatabouterry going on. 

 

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My point was Griffith was not charged with any offence related to children. Given that he can’t be labelled the way he has been above. I’m not trying to defend him as an individual. Look at it this way if a neighbour of yours accused you of offences against underage children and you were not charged with it would you be happy being labelled that way ?. 

I’m not really talking about the alleged messages between Griffiths and a child, I’m looking at the undesirable viewpoint NLC are looking at. Whether he sent these messages or not, Griffiths is a convicted, racist scumbag who, if we’re now looking to bar people from Broadwood, should be top of the list.
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So are you saying NLC should ban any fan who also has a criminal conviction? That’ll take out the majority of Cumbernauld.
Some amount of whatabouterry going on. 

 

I’m basically saying that NLC need to keep the playing field even. Do we have a tier logic behind this? Rape - life ban from Broadwood and other NLC facilities, assault - perhaps a 6 month ban? It needs to be clear, for all clubs that are in council owned stadia, so they know who they can and can’t sign.
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23 minutes ago, Adam said:


I’m basically saying that NLC need to keep the playing field even. Do we have a tier logic behind this? Rape - life ban from Broadwood and other NLC facilities, assault - perhaps a 6 month ban? It needs to be clear, for all clubs that are in council owned stadia, so they know who they can and can’t sign.

 

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1 hour ago, Adam said:


Neither was Goodwillie. NLC are setting a precedent, that is potentially difficult to return from. Leigh Griffiths was convicted, in a criminal court, of racial abuse. He has been accused, although not convicted of, soliciting a child under 16. If that isn’t an undesirable individual I don’t know what is.

I hope NLC think seriously about allowing Griffiths access to Broadwood tomorrow given the precedent now set by them.

I thought Goodwillie and Robertson were charged by the police. It was the Fiscal who decided not to proceed with the prosecution.

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12 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

I thought Goodwillie and Robertson were charged by the police. It was the Fiscal who decided not to proceed with the prosecution.

I had a look there and Goodwillie was charged but later dropped. Robertson was never charged. Not really sure what the legal difference is.

Also found out that Goodwillie tried to represent himself so that he could personally interrogate his victim, but the judge wouldn’t allow it.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/17/david-goodwillie-david-robertson-judge-rules-raped-woman

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Whatever your view on David Goodwillie or the fact he's played with us the last 5 years... we all know the decision to bring him back after the Raith social media furore last month was ridiculous. The understatement of the century.

The club has been led in a terrible direction by incompetent board members and a "supporters" club which only cares about their favourite player.

The only way forward for us is to have a clear remorseful stance on the whole situation and those who made these decisions held accountable with immediate comment and resignations when the correct replacements are found. The termination of Mr Goodwillies contract was inevitable after the councils stance but was relieved to see we finally made a correct decision, albeit a forced one.

The club has been dragged through the mud enough, it's time we got rid of those who put the future of the club at risk and move on from this whole nightmare. 

Better hope those relocation working groups have been busy...

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