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11 minutes ago, RutherGlen said:

What exactly would you like to see happen to Goodwillie? As we all know, he was found guilty in a civil court and has paid compensation to his victim as per the ruling. He also lost his right to play at the top level (despite clearly being more than capable of playing there, even now.) Since then he has worked hard and kept his head down.

This isn't enough for many but I wonder what would be enough? What exactly do you wish to see happen for justice in your eyes to be done? Should he be banned from playing football ever again? From working in any capacity, whether that be as a tradesman or otherwise?

At what point do people say, "ok that'll do."? I'm genuinely interested to know...

A start would be him showing literally any remorse whatsoever. 

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YEESSSSSSSS! Good to see the majority of fans have been listened to over a few posters on here. How it should be in a fan owned club.

By the majority of fans you mean the cretins on the official forum who are a small representation of the wider fan base. Imagine celebrating the signing of a rapist that’s been absolutely lambasted in the press in recent weeks. Even if you’ve had your head in the sand for the last 5 years surely the reaction when he signed for raith was a wake up call.
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14 minutes ago, RutherGlen said:

What exactly would you like to see happen to Goodwillie? As we all know, he was found guilty in a civil court and has paid compensation to his victim as per the ruling. He also lost his right to play at the top level (despite clearly being more than capable of playing there, even now.) Since then he has worked hard and kept his head down.

This isn't enough for many but I wonder what would be enough? What exactly do you wish to see happen for justice in your eyes to be done? Should he be banned from playing football ever again? From working in any capacity, whether that be as a tradesman or otherwise?

At what point do people say, "ok that'll do."? I'm genuinely interested to know...

That would be nice. You only have to look at what happened with David Robertson and Goodwillie should have done the same.

He isn't a decent person whatsoever and has spent his whole life getting into situations and doing horrible things. He doesn't deserve the right to be looked up to by young fans who don't know what he is actually like or what he has done.

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1 minute ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

A start would be him showing literally any remorse whatsoever. 

Well, that's obviously not going to happen as he has always maintained his innocence. To apologise in any way would be an admission of guilt, at least in part. 

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2 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

A start would be him showing literally any remorse whatsoever. 

It’s widely discussed and accepted that to show remorse would be an admission of the act, something which has always been denied.

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Just now, RutherGlen said:

Well, that's obviously not going to happen as he has always maintained his innocence. To apologise in any way would be an admission of guilt, at least in part. 

Ok, well in that case I’ll continue in my view that he should not be allowed to play any form of professional football in Scotland, and that any club who employ him are utter scum.

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15 minutes ago, RutherGlen said:

What exactly would you like to see happen to Goodwillie? As we all know, he was found guilty in a civil court and has paid compensation to his victim as per the ruling. He also lost his right to play at the top level (despite clearly being more than capable of playing there, even now.) Since then he has worked hard and kept his head down.

This isn't enough for many but I wonder what would be enough? What exactly do you wish to see happen for justice in your eyes to be done? Should he be banned from playing football ever again? From working in any capacity, whether that be as a tradesman or otherwise?

At what point do people say, "ok that'll do."? I'm genuinely interested to know...

Wholeheartedly agree.

What are people wanting.  Are they wanting him to be ostracized from society for ther rest of his life.

If that is the case do they want that to apply to everyone who has a criminal conviction.

From his time at Clyde he has been a model pro both on and off the park as I understand.  What more can he do???? 

Or it is just nothing.

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Well, that's obviously not going to happen as he has always maintained his innocence. To apologise in any way would be an admission of guilt, at least in part. 
Even if he doesn't believe he raped her his actions that night were disgusting. He's never acknowledged any wrongdoing whatsoever.
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Pressure from sponsors and fans over the last few days have forced Board to change their mind

Yeah I’m sure the sponsors were really pushing for a high profile rapist to be brought back on board.
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6 minutes ago, squeezebox-son said:

That would be nice. You only have to look at what happened with David Robertson and Goodwillie should have done the same.

He isn't a decent person whatsoever and has spent his whole life getting in fights and doing horrible things. He doesn't deserve the right to be looked up to by young fans who don't know what he is actually like or what he has done.

I think your assessment of his character is absolutely spot on for back when this happened. However, his behaviour on/off the park since would suggest otherwise. 

It would seem to me that he is a very different person now. Do you believe people have the ability to change in terms of their attitudes/behaviour? To grow up and mature, become more responsible individuals? If so, why would the likes of David Goodwillie be incapable of such progression?

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8 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

A start would be him showing literally any remorse whatsoever. 

He doesnt believe he has done anything wrong so difficult to show remorse for something he hasnt done.

If he did then he could open himself up to potential prosecution.

I am sure he is sorry that the whole event ever happened and wished he could go back in time to change everything.

 

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4 minutes ago, Jack Burton said:
8 minutes ago, RutherGlen said:
Well, that's obviously not going to happen as he has always maintained his innocence. To apologise in any way would be an admission of guilt, at least in part. 

Even if he doesn't believe he raped her his actions that night were disgusting. He's never acknowledged any wrongdoing whatsoever.

Again, any sort of apology even if it was issued alongside a denial of rape would not look good for him and I would assume his legal team would have advised against such action. Goodwillie may well feel a lot of remorse and would like to publically apologise for his actions but to do so would always be interpreted as guilt of the rape itself and so will never happen.

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2 minutes ago, Bullyweeno1 said:

He doesnt believe he has done anything wrong so difficult to show remorse for something he hasnt done.

If he did then he could open himself up to potential prosecution.

I am sure he is sorry that the whole event ever happened and wished he could go back in time to change everything.

 

Thats my take on it too

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9 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

Ok, well in that case I’ll continue in my view that he should not be allowed to play any form of professional football in Scotland, and that any club who employ him are utter scum.

Sure, you’re perfectly entitled to your opinion.

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Legend? Really?

Your club has won the Scottish Cup three times.

There are countless players who merit the accolade of being labelled a Clyde legend.

And you lump them in with this individual.

What a sordid mess.

 

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3 minutes ago, Bullyweeno1 said:

He doesnt believe he has done anything wrong so difficult to show remorse for something he hasnt done.

If he did then he could open himself up to potential prosecution.

I am sure he is sorry that the whole event ever happened and wished he could go back in time to change everything.

 

The way you defend a guy you don’t even know is creepy. w**k bank stuff.

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7 minutes ago, Clyde01 said:


Yeah I’m sure the sponsors were really pushing for a high profile rapist to be brought back on board.

They were pushing for a really good footballer to return to a Club he served in exemplary fashion for over 4 seasons.

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7 minutes ago, RutherGlen said:

I think your assessment of his character is absolutely spot on for back when this happened. However, his behaviour on/off the park since would suggest otherwise. 

It would seem to me that he is a very different person now. Do you believe people have the ability to change in terms of their attitudes/behaviour? To grow up and mature, become more responsible individuals? If so, why would the likes of David Goodwillie be exempt from such progression?

Well put.

He was a bit of an idiot in his younger days getting into trouble on more than one occasion but plenty of us have been the same in our younger days.

But like most people it appears he has matured in recent years and become the model pro both on and off the park.

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