haufdaft Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Absolutely nothing the matter with the structure at the moment other than the unfair distribution of monies. We're basically talking about changing the entire structure of Scottish football to basically save Hearts from one season in the championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) I do think that Hearts have a claim to stay up, to be fair. They could have put a run together. And what happens if there is a further outbreak next season... what's the cut off? Would you relegate clubs if they're bottom after twenty games, ten, five? I think the fairest thing to do is reprieve the bottom clubs, promoted the top two clubs and go 14-10-10-10. You still reward the likes of Dundee United and Cove but don't punish teams who could have got out of trouble. Stranraer would be dead jammy but it is better than the alternative of leagues with odd numbers of teams. 14-10-10-10 seems the best way to minimise the number of people who are pissed off and negate the threat of having a season further delayed by legal action, too. Edited April 21, 2020 by Bully Wee Villa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, haufdaft said: Absolutely nothing the matter with the structure at the moment other than the unfair distribution of monies. We're basically talking about changing the entire structure of Scottish football to basically save Hearts from one season in the championship. Don't agree. 4 times a season is duller than it needs to be. The money I agree on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Bully Wee Villa said: I do think that Hearts have a claim to stay up, to be fair. They could have put a run together. And what happens if there is a further outbreak next season... what's the cut off? Would you relegate clubs if they're bottom after twenty games, ten, five? I think the fairest thing to do is reprieve the bottom clubs, promoted the top two clubs and go 14-10-10-10. You still reward the likes of Dundee United and Cove but don't punish teams who could have got out of trouble. Stranraer would be dead jammy but it is better than the alternative of leagues with odd numbers of teams. 14-10-10-10 seems the best way to minimise the number of people who are pissed off and negate the threat of having a season further delayed by legal action, too. It can't be both ways. The SPFL cannot say that leaders in their league should be rewarded with the league championship but bottom clubs should not be punished for an incomplete season It's either one or the other. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) Yes you can. Nobody who could still have got out of it deserves to be punished with lots of games to go, but teams who have played well all season shouldn't have their efforts be declared in vain. Plus you avoid getting sued that way. And it is fair with regards the tables as they are, the only thing that would be unfair would be Stranraer escaping, but I could live with that.... no possible scenario is going to be perfectly fair for everyone. Rivalry aside, noone can really argue that Partick Thistle should be down when they have a game in hand, for starters. And there is no justification whatsoever for deciding that Raith Rovers, top by a point, get promoted while Cove Rangers, thirteen clear, don't. Let alone effectively relegating us and Peterhead when we aren't even in the relegation zone! 14-10-10-10 isn't perfect but is better than any of the other options for next season. Edited April 21, 2020 by Bully Wee Villa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Rivalry aside, noone can really argue that Partick Thistle should be down when they have a game in hand, for starters. They are statistically the worst side in the division with the lowest points to games played ratio. The game in hand they keep bleating on about was away to ICT where they would most likely have got pumped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Maybe. Though we have lost to Stranraer but beaten Falkirk three times, so football isn't always predictable. In any case, if you are happy to relegate teams based on the standings in March, what's the cut off? What if we get another wave of disease and next season is stopped early? Should teams be relegated after fifteen games, ten, five? Arguably the Premiership situation is just as controversial as the fixtures, post-split, give any of the bottom six teams the chance of putting a run together. And on a selfish level, I'm concerned that the desperation to avoid relegating teams (and the likely legal minefield that would ensue) will result in a restructure that unfairly confines Clyde to the bottom tier. 14-10-10-10 seems the best solution to problems. Nothing pleases everyone, this seems less controversial than relegating teams or restructuring in such a way that teams such as ourselves are unfairly reallocated to a lesser league. You could always ditch it after one season. So long as teams know in advance what they're up against, they couldn't argue it was unfair if they get relegated next season. Just not this season with the goalposts moved three quarters of the way through. Edited April 22, 2020 by Bully Wee Villa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Reid Fan Club Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Does anyone think our player budget cut of 22% relates to reconstruction next season. Maybe the board are aware it’s happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxruby Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Does anyone think our player budget cut of 22% relates to reconstruction next season. Maybe the board are aware it’s happening. Perhaps you could ask the board if that’s the case. Should you get an answer, would you be good enough to let any Clyde FC “ Owners” know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I wonder if NLL will countenance a rent & council tax holiday? It would go a long way to ensuring a club is there to use the facilities after all of this, especially if it drags on into 2020-21 season, as without it there could be a very empty stadium in Cumbernauld and across the rest of the country if teams start folding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxruby Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Opportunity for an Origami League if that happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IR1970 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 22/04/2020 at 01:09, Clyde01 said: They are statistically the worst side in the division with the lowest points to games played ratio. The game in hand they keep bleating on about was away to ICT where they would most likely have got pumped. They have pumped Inverness twice this season.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde soccer trendy Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 They have pumped Inverness twice this season..But got pumped off of everyone else and that’s why they’re bottom of the league [emoji1360] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Maybe. Though we have lost to Stranraer but beaten Falkirk three times, so football isn't always predictable. In any case, if you are happy to relegate teams based on the standings in March, what's the cut off? What if we get another wave of disease and next season is stopped early? Should teams be relegated after fifteen games, ten, five? Arguably the Premiership situation is just as controversial as the fixtures, post-split, give any of the bottom six teams the chance of putting a run together. And on a selfish level, I'm concerned that the desperation to avoid relegating teams (and the likely legal minefield that would ensue) will result in a restructure that unfairly confines Clyde to the bottom tier. 14-10-10-10 seems the best solution to problems. Nothing pleases everyone, this seems less controversial than relegating teams or restructuring in such a way that teams such as ourselves are unfairly reallocated to a lesser league. You could always ditch it after one season. So long as teams know in advance what they're up against, they couldn't argue it was unfair if they get relegated next season. Just not this season with the goalposts moved three quarters of the way through.There's nothing unfair in the overall scheme of things about consigning Clyde to the bottom tier - you could equally state Clyde will fairly continue to be in the third tier so isn't a lesser league. It also potentially makes Clyde one of the better teams in the league instead of one of the lesser teams and they thus have a better chance of reaching tier 2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Burton Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 There's nothing unfair in the overall scheme of things about consigning Clyde to the bottom tier - you could equally state Clyde will fairly continue to be in the third tier so isn't a lesser league. It also potentially makes Clyde one of the better teams in the league instead of one of the lesser teams and they thus have a better chance of reaching tier 2Of course it's unfair! We aren't in a relegation place but 14-14-14 would relegate us to the bottom tier.We would be one relegation away from the Lowland league rather than two and would have to win promotion again to share the same league with the teams we currently do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Haddock Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On an even more worrying note-is action by Norrie Innes going to be what puts paid to Clyde FC? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Of course it's unfair! We aren't in a relegation place but 14-14-14 would relegate us to the bottom tier.We would be one relegation away from the Lowland league rather than two and would have to win promotion again to share the same league with the teams we currently do. It isn't unfair - you don't like it that's a different thing. If you change to 3 x 14 and are in the bottom 14 then that's fair enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adolfo Rios Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 So it isn't unfair that we would be in a position where we are budgeting on away crowds consistently under 100 against being in the same league as Falkirk and Thistle that bring ten times that? Or it being more attractive to sponsors etc to advertise to larger crowds. That and being able to attract or keep better players also from playing a higher standard of opposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Burton Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 It isn't unfair - you don't like it that's a different thing. If you change to 3 x 14 and are in the bottom 14 then that's fair enough. Relegating a club not a relegation place isn't unfair? [emoji848]I'm sure Cove will be delighted too won the league and still end up in the same league as bottom team Brechin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Burton Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On an even more worrying note-is action by Norrie Innes going to be what puts paid to Clyde FC?What action? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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