Boris Johnson and Independence

[Rodhull]

Yeah I can't imagine him hindering the Independence vote but so many of the no vote are against Independence under any circumstances it's hard to be optimistic of any significant change.

[ICTJohnboy]

I can't wait to see how, if selected as leader, he will address the border situation in Ireland/Northern Ireland.

[jamamafegan]

I think if anything Boris will help the independence push. There’s plenty of material available of him dishing the dirt on Scotland. My only concern is that he is a far more cunning and dangerous person than May is.

[welshbairn]

2 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

I think if anything Boris will help the independence push. There’s plenty of material available of him dishing the dirt on Scotland. My only concern is that he is a far more cunning and dangerous person than May is.

I fully expect him to be caught muttering "f**k the jocks" like he got caught with "f**k business".

[Jute]

1 hour ago, WATTOO said:

Totally agree, our country is full of those who hate "her" (meaning Nicola Sturgeon) but when asked, they can't tell you why or even any of the SNP's policies etc. (I know, because I just tested this theory out).

 

I know of people who voted Brexit Party yesterday purely because it was the opposite of "what that women" was standing for.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Jute said:

I know of people who voted Brexit Party yesterday purely because it was the opposite of "what that women" was standing for.

Yes, it's sad to say the least.

[ICTJohnboy]

5 minutes ago, Jute said:

I know of people who voted Brexit Party yesterday purely because it was the opposite of "what that women" was standing for.

 

Aberdeen's a funny place.

[Jute]

1 minute ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

Aberdeen's a funny place.

It was folk from Dundee and Edinburgh.

[Granny Danger]

Johnson will fail on Brexit; the way in which he fails will determine whether people will be more or less likely to support Independence.

 

[welshbairn]

I could see Boris with his stunned "what the f**k have I done" face again on the morning of hard brexit after he fails to get a last minute extension and after a series of failed negotiations, like he looked on the morning after the referendum. Hopefully he'll be forced into a General Election instead or a second referendum.

Edited May 24, 2019 by welshbairn

[Dundee Hibernian]

Dominic Raab is, in my view, more likely to be the next Tory leader and PM. No less dismissive of Scottish Independence, but less skeletons in his closet.

[welshbairn]

1 minute ago, Dundee Hibernian said:

Dominic Raab is, in my view, more likely to be the next Tory leader and PM. No less dismissive of Scottish Independence, but less skeletons in his closet.

Nobody had heard of him until a few months ago, bet something juicy will come out when they start digging.

[gannonball]

1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

What absolute shitstorm?

The overwhelming majority of Scots live perfectly comfortable lives.

By shafting the lower end where one in for four children live in poverty. Attempts are being made by the Scottish government to change this by raising taxes to combat this and cutting it at the lower end. But without being able to force large corporations to actually pay some come fucking corporate tax it can be somewhat futile.

Tbh I would have had Independence as a romantic notion if we didn't Haemorrhage money out the public  purse to private enterprises that should be under public control, and we weren't shafting the most vulnerable  of society.  Im not scottish so I don't feel massively patriotic, I am a human being though which is why I would back independence in a heart beat as I see it the best way of helping those at the lower end.

Edited May 24, 2019 by gannonball

[Guest]

Boris 5/6 with Raab at 5/1 your candy, it's then 11/1 Snakey Gove & 16/1 Jeremy Chunt and 20/1 bar.

Quite a disgusting bunch when you look through the odds..........

[harry94]

I think Boris would bottle anything towards a 'no deal' tbh. It's all image with him (and not a flattering one) so I imagine him doing a lot of fist shaking and maybe having a go at his own renegotiation and resetting the clock with the hope that he can find a route into tricking the public into perceiving his identical settlement as something new. The one thing he does bring which May never could is that he probably could trick the thick as f**k hard Brexiteers in his party as he's been so pivotal in manipulating some of them (not that May wasn't but she didn't have the same amount of credibility) so he may well be able to get something passed.

Leadsom would be worse in every measure than Boris and capable of causing much more economic and societal damage. She's probably the dream PM you'd want to be opposing in an independence referendum scenario.

[Im_Rodger]

Won't need to worry about a BoJo PM if Sir Graham Brady is standing. 

A far more competent and intelligent candidate for the leadership. 

He has my vote if he goes through with standing. 

[doulikefish]

Gormless Rory is standing [emoji23]

[ICTJohnboy]

1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

Johnson will fail on Brexit; the way in which he fails will determine whether people will be more or less likely to support Independence.

 

 

I think even he might be capable of taking us out the EU on a No Deal basis.

[harry94]

It'd be absolute scenes if Gove somehow stopped Boris getting on the ballot again.

[Granny Danger]

3 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

I think even he might be capable of taking us out the EU on a No Deal basis.

So that will be a failure and Johnson will not be able to blame anyone else.

What is astounding is that Johnson and other leadership contenders think that they will get concessions from the EU that May didn’t get.  Totally delusional.