quickoverayard Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 People used to defend VAR because getting decisions right is the only thing that mattered apparently, now people are throwing their toys out the pram when teams are winning that they don’t want to win. What happened to that? Aye clear and obvious errors this is an extreme!!! Now looking into something that happened in the build up a minute prior to a goal being scored, imo scoring goals is the hardest thing to do in football and now they are being taken away by stuff that genuinely had no bearing in the outcome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie_lad Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 The opinions on the use of VAR for offsides in the EPL has been pretty unanimous across the board on here no matter what team it is. What’s that then? I’ve only read that it is perfect for offside because it either is or isn’t, apparently not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 For once I actually agree with SounessWhat did he say? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just now, jimmy boo said: 15 minutes ago, quickoverayard said: For once I actually agree with Souness What did he say? That the rule should be "if any part of the body is ONSIDE" rather than offside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 minute ago, killie_lad said: What’s that then? I’ve only read that it is perfect for offside because it either is or isn’t, apparently not. It’s not perfect for offside. While offside itself is a binary decision, you still need an accurate means of detecting it. Until VAR can freeze the video at precisely the moment the ball is kicked, and have pixel-level accuracy when drawing the lines, you can’t categorically say these close decisions are correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 17 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Today was the start of the second half of the season - everyone has played everyone else once (West Ham v Liverpool outstanding), so they could have decided that for the return games they would adopt a more 'sensible' approach to offside. Has it really been explained why they departed from only "clear and obvious" in the first place? I’m not sure why everyone having played everyone else would allow them to change things. Imagine if Norwich were relegated on the final day thanks to a last minute goal scored after the exact same margin of offside as their disallowed one yesterday. That wouldn’t suddenly be OK because they waited until the half-way point to less strictly apply VAR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie_lad Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 It’s not perfect for offside. While offside itself is a binary decision, you still need an accurate means of detecting it. Until VAR can freeze the video at precisely the moment the ball is kicked, and have pixel-level accuracy when drawing the lines, you can’t categorically say these close decisions are correct. I’m not saying its perfect but that’s the defence I’ve seen for VAR. I only think VAR should be used to eradicate cheating and (the literal definition of clear and obvious) errors such as ones which only require one viewing to see it was wrong or just bin it altogether 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickoverayard Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 What did he say?Not through the use of VAR that football is an entertainment business and they are taking away from the fans. Using a majority of your body being onside would be unfair as you can gain an advantage by a good margin but millimetres is ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, killie_lad said: I’m not saying its perfect but that’s the defence I’ve seen for VAR. I only think VAR should be used to eradicate cheating and (the literal definition of clear and obvious) errors such as ones which only require one viewing to see it was wrong or just bin it altogether I wouldn't say one viewing but my own thoughts aren't really far off of this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 If we are going to use VAR to call offsides on the basis of a millimetre or two, then what is the point in having linesman? The human eye can't detect it in real time. It wasn't a clear and obvious error and shouldn't have been reviewed. It's ridiculous that we're in the business of disallowing goals because an armpit is offside. VAR was actually right in allowing Liverpool's goal, then we end up back at square one only a minute or two later. It needs to be either severely restrained, or preferably, binned. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 FÛCK VAR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Well if the ref didnt have VAR to help him he'd have stuffed that one up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 VAR disallows a goal for Sheffield against City. Eyelash off side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickoverayard Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Makes it worse that it cost wolves what would of been a well earned point 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 This is just getting mad now. No thought for the supporters in the grounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Nice seeing Sullivan & Gold taking West Ham to the next level.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Saw them yesterday against Leicester reserves they were brutal, not sure the stadium helps, it's soulless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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qos_75 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Moyes back at West Ham. I reckon he will save them from relegation. That said, the owner’s there really do not have a clue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 If someone could please give Jamie O'Hara a job as well now please then Sky and Talksport would be a wee bit more bearable. Can I look out some old Moyes gifs again now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) MotD highlights. 2 games... 2 V-A-R offside guesses 1 V-A-R overrule after whistle blown 1 "play on" after ref obstructs Farcical. Edited December 29, 2019 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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