Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, senorsoupe said: This is a very pragmatic appointment in the short term for Tottenham but the mayhem from the inevitable fallout in a couple of years could leave them in a much worse position than they are in. Spurs will win a lot of games 1-0 over the next 2 years or so but then (like at the other clubs Mourinho has managed) it will go spectacularly badly Under poch spurs brought lots of young players through, saving them a lot of money. That ends nkw, if I was a kid at spurs on the verge of the first team I'd be asking for a move in January, no kids will be coming through there now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 This seems an insanely bad decision from Spurs. Mourinho had his day a long time ago and always relied on having more money to spend than anyone else. He won't get anything like that at Tottenham. His siege mentality and antisocial demeanour are predictable and boring now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Tears and snotters from some fans on talkshite earlier. Pleasing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Kuro said: Mourinho must have the tiniest microdick in the world, that's why he is the way he is. Utterly disgusting human being too, and bad for.the game. Does a lot of damage at every club he's at, and leaves behind a huge mess. Astonishingly stupid move from spurs. The last time Jose and Kuro met did not go well. Edited November 20, 2019 by Sergeant Wilson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said: The last time Jose and Kuro met did not go well. Let's be honest daffy duck could kick the shit out of mourinho. A hardman he is not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Watching Spurs fans on tv, in real time trying to convince themselves that this is a great move and guarantees them trophies is brilliant to see. A proper lesson in overcompensating 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Son and dele ali as wingbacks will be great 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Mourinho got a worse Man Utd squad to 2nd in the league, and when you look at their decline since he left it shows that the job he did there perhaps wasn't as bad as made out. It does seem a strange move from Levy though considering Mourinho is a 'cheque book manager' and Levy is about as far from a 'cheque book chairman' as it's possible to get. Either Mourinho will have to change and focus on developing from within, or Levy will have to cough up. It's almost like it's Levy's last gamble for silverware. This team is coming towards the end if it's cycle and it's a last shot with a proven winner before the team gets broken up. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Mourinho got a worse Man Utd squad to 2nd in the league, and when you look at their decline since he left it shows that the job he did there perhaps wasn't as bad as made out. It does seem a strange move from Levy though considering Mourinho is a 'cheque book manager' and Levy is about as far from a 'cheque book chairman' as it's possible to get. Either Mourinho will have to change and focus on developing from within, or Levy will have to cough up. It's almost like it's Levy's last gamble for silverware. This team is coming towards the end if it's cycle and it's a last shot with a proven winner before the team gets broken up. You have to imagine that the likes of Kane may use Poch leaving as their way round the loyalty shtick and out of the club. Maybe I am being unfair on Kane but wouldnt be surprised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said: Mourinho got a worse Man Utd squad to 2nd in the league, and when you look at their decline since he left it shows that the job he did there perhaps wasn't as bad as made out. It does seem a strange move from Levy though considering Mourinho is a 'cheque book manager' and Levy is about as far from a 'cheque book chairman' as it's possible to get. Either Mourinho will have to change and focus on developing from within, or Levy will have to cough up. It's almost like it's Levy's last gamble for silverware. This team is coming towards the end if it's cycle and it's a last shot with a proven winner before the team gets broken up. Decline since he left? He left them utter.shite and outsider the CL places, they are trying to.fix the mess.he left behind right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said: Mourinho got a worse Man Utd squad to 2nd in the league, and when you look at their decline since he left it shows that the job he did there perhaps wasn't as bad as made out. It does seem a strange move from Levy though considering Mourinho is a 'cheque book manager' and Levy is about as far from a 'cheque book chairman' as it's possible to get. Either Mourinho will have to change and focus on developing from within, or Levy will have to cough up. It's almost like it's Levy's last gamble for silverware. This team is coming towards the end if it's cycle and it's a last shot with a proven winner before the team gets broken up. The team is already breaking up. Erikson, Alderweireld and Vertonghen have six months left on their contracts and Danny Rose has already said he won't be renewing his contract at the end of next season. How much is it going to replace those four alone before they even start thinking of improving. And see the next generation of Kanes, Winks, Walker-Peters and the likes, well you can forget about them coming through under any time soon. They have no chance under him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 You have to imagine that the likes of Kane may use Poch leaving as their way round the loyalty shtick and out of the club. Maybe I am being unfair on Kane but wouldnt be surprised. But but but...he's one of their own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Musketeer Gripweed said: The team is already breaking up. Erikson, Alderweireld and Vertonghen have six months left on their contracts and Danny Rose has already said he won't be renewing his contract at the end of next season. How much is it going to replace those four alone before they even start thinking of improving. And see the next generation of Kanes, Winks, Walker-Peters and the likes, well you can forget about them coming through under any time soon. They have no chance under him. Some of them might stay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Musketeer Gripweed said: And see the next generation of Kanes, Winks, Walker-Peters and the likes, well you can forget about them coming through under any time soon. They have no chance under him. Tbf he does play youngsters if they're good enough, hes very much a "contribute now or you're useless" type of manager. His list of "successful" young players hes developed reads Davide Santon, Mario Baloteli, Nacho, Fabinho (not that one), Pablo Sarabia, Solanke and Loftus-Cheek. That's just the list of players he brought into the first team, continued to play, and either turned into first team regulars or have found first team football at a high level elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Tbf he does play youngsters if they're good enough, hes very much a "contribute now or you're useless" type of manager. His list of "successful" young players hes developed reads Davide Santon, Mario Baloteli, Nacho, Fabinho (not that one), Pablo Sarabia, Solanke and Loftus-Cheek. That's just the list of players he brought into the first team, continued to play, and either turned into first team regulars or have found first team football at a high level elsewhere. Balotelli was brought in by.mancini not mourinho, sarabia player one game under mourinho and was punted, solanke one game punted. He doesn't develop young players at all, and for nearly twenty years managing thats an awful list. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 You can definitely include McTominay in that too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kuro said: Balotelli was brought in by.mancini not mourinho, sarabia player one game under mourinho and was punted, solanke one game punted. He doesn't develop young players at all, and for nearly twenty years managing thats an awful list. Balotelli was 19 when Mourinho made him a first team regular for the first time. Sarabia etc. only played once, but it was Mourinho who brought them into the first team and all the development you pick up from that. Its wrong to portray him as someone who actively ignores youth players, IMO. If they're good enough he'll play them, if not then he won't, is that worse than managers (Wenger) who seemingly just launched innumerable amounts of youngsters into the team in the hope one or two stuck? I'm not even sure he'll take a similar approach the more I read about this, his backroom staff choices are wildly different to his usual ones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: Balotelli was 19 when Mourinho made him a first team regular for the first time. Sarabia etc. only played once, but it was Mourinho who brought them into the first team and all the development you pick up from that. Its wrong to portray him as someone who actively ignores youth players, IMO. If they're good enough he'll play them, if not then he won't, is that worse than managers (Wenger) who seemingly just launched innumerable amounts of youngsters into the team in the hope one or two stuck? I'm not even sure he'll take a similar approach the more I read about this, his backroom staff choices are wildly different to his usual ones. Its entirely correct to paint him as exactly that because that's what he does. He had de bruyne and salah at Chelsea, sold them.both. I'm assuming you would agree they were good enough? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 And mancini made balotelli a first team regular not mourinho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kuro said: Its entirely correct to paint him as exactly that because that's what he does. He had de bruyne and salah at Chelsea, sold them.both. I'm assuming you would agree they were good enough? Selling De Bruyne and Salah calls into question his judgement, but it’s kinda irrelevant to the discussion about youth players considering neither of them were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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