Bishop Briggs Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, This time Perthshirebell said: Yes Scotland could join the Euro like the rUK could still join the Euro. You're posting like it's the year 2013. All your fairytale noise has long since been debunked any there's been apologies. https://www.buzzfeed.com/sirajdatoo/better-together-campaign-chief-we-would-have-struggled-to-wi?utm_term=.ifvO7W4bRG&fbclid=IwAR1yxLm03wkQF9_ZVQtn9LWNykRKCoej230omQma0o5LlBtYIvfFZwoD0oQ#.sppe25W41r Not true. Britain has an opt-out and has no obligation to join the Euro. An independent Scotland, having left the UK, would have such an obligation like another new applicant. Only a Treaty amendment, requiring the agreement of all Member States, would remove that obligation. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Worth pointing out the SNP won the highest vote share of any party in western Europe. In any other country this would be front page news. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, Bishop Briggs said: Not true. Britain has an opt-out and has no obligation to join the Euro. An independent Scotland, having left the UK, would have such an obligation like another new applicant. Only a Treaty amendment, requiring the agreement of all Member States, would remove that obligation. It isn't 2014. You really don't have to do this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: in due course Sweden joined 24 years ago and meets all the criteria for Euro membership but one. They refuse to change their laws to give supremacy to the European Central Bank. No country has been forced to join the Euro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfha Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, Bishop Briggs said: Not true. Britain has an opt-out and has no obligation to join the Euro. An independent Scotland, having left the UK, would have such an obligation like another new applicant. Only a Treaty amendment, requiring the agreement of all Member States, would remove that obligation. Like my friend above stated... bollocks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S7C Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Kuro said: Worth pointing out the SNP won the highest vote share of any party in western Europe. In any other country this would be front page news. Waiting on Bishop Briggs pulling out an article from 2004 to "prove you wrong". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) The fuckwittery and denial of the blatantly fucking obvious on display tonight is astounding. Edited May 28, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, Tibbermoresaint said: It isn't 2014. You really don't have to do this. The Treaties have not changed. Like Norway, an independent Scotland should join EFTA to keep its own currency. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: The Treaties have not changed. Like Norway, an independent Scotland should join EFTA to keep its own currency. No-one said the treaties have changed. You're being utterly rinsed here. Give it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfha Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, This time Perthshirebell said: No the UK thinks that Scotland is a region and affords it only 6 MEPS. The EU knows Scotland should be a normal country, thinks the UK is fucking batshit mental, and is happy to increase Scotland's MEP's by 250% as afforded to normal countries of the size of Scotland. You are a fucking idiot. We move over to your greater wisdom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfha Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, This time Perthshirebell said: You might be happy that Scotland is afforded less MEP's than the West midlands of England. Others think we should be allocated the same amount of MEP's as countries of similar size and population to Scotland. Countries like Ireland, Finland etc. That's not greater wisdom, just entry level wisdom Ireland and Finland have been nation states (before the EEC...) since the 1920s... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfha Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, This time Perthshirebell said: Can you explain your logic as to why this means they'll receive more MEP's than Scotland would? We'd think better of you if you and BB were on nodding terms with reality. Well Perthshirebell mentioned these countries in HIS argument.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, sfha said: Ireland and Finland have been nation states (before the EEC...) since the 1920s... Fucking Malta has 6 MEPs and it has a population of 475,000. Stop making an arse of yourself. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, sfha said: Ireland and Finland have been nation states (before the EEC...) since the 1920s... Good argument for independence there. Finland was repressed by Swedish and Russian rule for over 800 years till they were liberated in 1917. Now they're flourishing as an independent state with a hi tech economy, in close harmony with the EU. Similarly Ireland. It's good to have something to aspire to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfha Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, This time Perthshirebell said: Denmark, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Ireland, Latvia, Slovakia all have substantially more MEP's as normal countries. Scotland is level with Luxembourg. Why do you think it's best for Scotland not to be a normal country but controlled by the UK gov? Agreed. Next time I'm voting for independence as I'm now in total agreeance with Holyrood and Westminster governance, and whatever, on this. Kidding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/opinion/nigel-farage-brexit.htmlGood, if potentially overreacting, analysis of Farage and the Brexit Party. Would have to see how he did in a general. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Ireland and Finland have been nation states (before the EEC...) since the 1920s...And? That's not an answer to the question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 The Treaties have not changed. Like Norway, an independent Scotland should join EFTA to keep its own currency.Don't understand how you're not getting the mechanics of the optional ERM alignment here? It's been pointed out to you a fair few times. What is it you don't understand, genuinely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Like my friend above stated... bollocksLike your friend above what is your answer to the voluntary ERM process stage please?Sincerely willing to be persuaded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 8 hours ago, sfha said: Ireland and Finland have been nation states (before the EEC...) since the 1920s... Scotland has been a 'nation state' far longer than Finland or the Republic of Ireland put together. But so what? What point are you trying to make? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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