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European Election - 23rd May 2019

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Men with their faces covered were feared to be armed with milkshakes

Men with their faces covered were feared to be armed with milkshakes.

 

 

From a certain shiny 'newspaper'.      :lol:        (this emoticon bears an uncanny resemblace to 'gob always open' Farage)

 

 

 

 

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This is definitely the time for Green voters to do exactly that. 4 SNP seats would be a great signal to send to Europe, it would send the UK government a clear signal of intent and,with Boris waiting in the wings, most likely start the countdown to indy.
Caught between voting Green and SNP tomorrow.

Green seems to be a bit of a wasted vote on this occasion which is sad. But they are also comfortably closer to my particular views at this time.

A number of things have frustrated me with the SNP recently and I'm still somewhat annoyed at centralisation of emergency services as well as frustrated about targets around climate change with not enough policies on achieving these.

However, the wasted vote problem is also weighing heavily on me.
f**k the polls. A green vote at this time will do the job, as more people see climate change as a factor than Scottish independence (for the European parliament I mean).

Definitely green for me, and anyone I can persuade to vote today.

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14 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

There is a distinction between a political leader and a political party.

There shouldn't be though. 

Should there?    

I don't understand Corbyn's stance. If he really believes in Socialism, which is a global movement, he should not be in favour of isolating the UK workers from their European brothers. 

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There shouldn't be though. 
Should there?    
I don't understand Corbyn's stance. If he really believes in Socialism, which is a global movement, he should not be in favour of isolating the UK workers from their European brothers. 

Because he's very old and cut his political teeth when the common market was viewed by socialists as mini globalisation that was embraced by Thatcher as a reason to kill UK heavy industry.

Now that the EU is broadly speaking working to lessen the differences in economies of its members, this argument isn't so convincing but he is too entrenched to recognise that.

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5 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said:

There shouldn't be though. 

Should there?    

I don't understand Corbyn's stance. If he really believes in Socialism, which is a global movement, he should not be in favour of isolating the UK workers from their European brothers. 

The "International" or "World" part of the UK socialist movement seems to have died a very long time ago.

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5 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said:

There shouldn't be though. 

Should there?    

I don't understand Corbyn's stance. If he really believes in Socialism, which is a global movement, he should not be in favour of isolating the UK workers from their European brothers. 

We do not (or certainly should not) have a situation where policy in any political party is dictated by one person even if that person is leader.

Therefore there will always be situations where a party leader is at odds with his/her/their party on policy issues.

I disagree with Corbyn on the EU but I understand where he’s coming from.  He sees the EU as a pan-capitalist organisation and he’s correct to a great degree.

The problem is that he fails to recognise the implications of the alternative which will be significantly worse.

Socialism in one country cannot work.

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21 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said:

There shouldn't be though. 

Should there?    

I don't understand Corbyn's stance. If he really believes in Socialism, which is a global movement, he should not be in favour of isolating the UK workers from their European brothers. 

He's a national socialist m8. A real popular choice.

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5 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

He's a national socialist m8. A real popular choice.

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Is that a photo of  Mogg's granda?

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32 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said:

There shouldn't be though. 

Should there?    

I don't understand Corbyn's stance. If he really believes in Socialism, which is a global movement, he should not be in favour of isolating the UK workers from their European brothers. 

Workers from all over Europe competing for the same jobs isn't a socialist aspiration. 

Full employment is the most basic socialist aspiration and it's impossible with FoM. 

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Just voted.  It was totally dead.  4 officials sitting on their backsides for 15 hours administering the votes of the few dozen that can be bothered. :huh:

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Just now, Gnash said:

Just voted.  It was totally dead.  4 officials sitting on their backsides for 15 hours administering the votes of the few dozen that can be bothered. :huh:

Yeah, this is going to be a real test of the various pollster turnout filters....

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20 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Workers from all over Europe competing for the same jobs isn't a socialist aspiration. 

Full employment is the most basic socialist aspiration and it's impossible with FoM. 

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28 minutes ago, renton said:

Yeah, this is going to be a real test of the various pollster turnout filters....

Wonder if they'll be allowed to give out the turnout figures before Sunday night? No idea what a low number would mean though, wary that it could be even better for Farage than the polls predict

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The lower the turnout, the better for Farage. Raging Brexiteer knuckledgraggers will be out in force to vote for him. If no one of other persuasion can be bothered then the smugger he will be on Sunday night.

I'll be voting Green later. It's the one election where the vote might actually count.

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