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On 5/21/2019 at 19:17, MixuFixit said:

Looking increasingly like a green vote is not going to cut it, this is average of the last 5 polls:

 

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Interesting. Would be massive if the SNP got four seats. Am not party political and have voted for two other parties as well as the SNP over the years but tomorrow, it's the SNP.

 

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Final YouGov Scottish subsample (usual subsample caveat applies)

SNP 40%, Brexit Party 23%, Liberal Democrats 12%, Greens 9%, Labour 7%, Conservatives 7%, UKIP 2%, Change UK 1%

The seats allocation on those numbers would be: SNP 3, Brexit Party 2, Liberal Democrats 1.

A Green vote is looking more & more like a wasted vote on this occasion.

If 7 out of 9 Green voters held their noses & voted SNP, the seats would be allocated SNP 4, Brexit 1 LibDems 1

Just sayin'...

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2 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

Final YouGov Scottish subsample (usual subsample caveat applies)

SNP 40%, Brexit Party 23%, Liberal Democrats 12%, Greens 9%, Labour 7%, Conservatives 7%, UKIP 2%, Change UK 1%

The seats allocation on those numbers would be: SNP 3, Brexit Party 2, Liberal Democrats 1.

A Green vote is looking more & more like a wasted vote on this occasion.

If 7 out of 9 Green voters held their noses & voted SNP, the seats would be allocated SNP 4, Brexit 1 LibDems 1

Just sayin'...

This is definitely the time for Green voters to do exactly that. 4 SNP seats would be a great signal to send to Europe, it would send the UK government a clear signal of intent and,with Boris waiting in the wings, most likely start the countdown to indy.

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Predictions for Thursday and then Sunday?

SNP 33%

Brexit 20%

Lab 15%

Tories 10%

Libs 10%

Greens 6%

UKIP/Change/Independents - all the rest of whats left.

SNP 2, Brexit 2, Lab 1, Tories/Libs 1.

UKIP may well out poll Change as well! e.g 2.4% to 1.8% in Scotland.

I hope I'm wrong, but have a feeling the SNP will under-perform by 3-5% of the polls, and it'll be a bit of a lackluster night for them.

 

 

 

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Caught between voting Green and SNP tomorrow.

Green seems to be a bit of a wasted vote on this occasion which is sad. But they are also comfortably closer to my particular views at this time.

A number of things have frustrated me with the SNP recently and I'm still somewhat annoyed at centralisation of emergency services as well as frustrated about targets around climate change with not enough policies on achieving these.

However, the wasted vote problem is also weighing heavily on me.

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On ‎20‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 14:36, John Lambies Doos said:

Probably already mentioned but we won't be hearing any results until Sunday.
Will there be an exit poll, or perhaps that won't be allowed?

We'll just need to go by Ruth's count of the postal votes.

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37 minutes ago, Kejan said:

Predictions for Thursday and then Sunday?

SNP 33%

Brexit 20%

Lab 15%

Tories 10%

Libs 10%

Greens 6%

UKIP/Change/Independents - all the rest of whats left.

SNP 2, Brexit 2, Lab 1, Tories/Libs 1.

UKIP may well out poll Change as well! e.g 2.4% to 1.8% in Scotland.

I hope I'm wrong, but have a feeling the SNP will under-perform by 3-5% of the polls, and it'll be a bit of a lackluster night for them.

On these figures, your calculations are wrong.

Seat 1 - SNP (33%)

Seat 2 Brexit (20%)

Seat 3 SNP (33/2 = 17.5%)

Seat 4 Labour (15%)

Seat 5 SNP (33/3 = 11%)

Seat 6 would be 1 out of 3 of Brexit (20/2 = 10%) Con (10%) & LD (10%)

I could live with that result, especially if the LD's (pro-remain) pick up the 6th seat instead of the Brexit Party or the Tories

Edited by lichtgilphead
missed out Labour!
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Just now, lichtgilphead said:

On these figures, your calculations are wrong.

Seat 1 - SNP (33%)

Seat 2 Brexit (20%)

Seat 3 SNP (33/2 = 17.5%)

Seat 4 Labour (15%)

Seat 5 SNP (33/3 = 11%)

Seat 6 would be 1 out of 3 of Brexit (20/2 = 10%) Con (10%) & LD (10%)

I could live with that result, especially if the LD's (pro-remain) pick up the 6th seat instead of the Brexit Party or the Tories

Thanks for doing the maths for me. It was more a rough, shitey guestimate but yes I'd most certainly take that too :)

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Caught between voting Green and SNP tomorrow.

Green seems to be a bit of a wasted vote on this occasion which is sad. But they are also comfortably closer to my particular views at this time.

A number of things have frustrated me with the SNP recently and I'm still somewhat annoyed at centralisation of emergency services as well as frustrated about targets around climate change with not enough policies on achieving these.

However, the wasted vote problem is also weighing heavily on me.
I see where you are coming from but it's all about the bigger picture here. First, get ownership of the hoose and then we can decorate it to our heart's content [emoji6]
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This is definitely the time for Green voters to do exactly that. 4 SNP seats would be a great signal to send to Europe, it would send the UK government a clear signal of intent and,with Boris waiting in the wings, most likely start the countdown to indy.
Caught between voting Green and SNP tomorrow.

Green seems to be a bit of a wasted vote on this occasion which is sad. But they are also comfortably closer to my particular views at this time.

A number of things have frustrated me with the SNP recently and I'm still somewhat annoyed at centralisation of emergency services as well as frustrated about targets around climate change with not enough policies on achieving these.

However, the wasted vote problem is also weighing heavily on me.
f**k the polls. A green vote at this time will do the job, as more people see climate change as a factor than Scottish independence (for the European parliament I mean).

Definitely green for me, and anyone I can persuade to vote today.
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14 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

There is a distinction between a political leader and a political party.

There shouldn't be though. 

Should there?    

I don't understand Corbyn's stance. If he really believes in Socialism, which is a global movement, he should not be in favour of isolating the UK workers from their European brothers. 

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5 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said:

There shouldn't be though. 

Should there?    

I don't understand Corbyn's stance. If he really believes in Socialism, which is a global movement, he should not be in favour of isolating the UK workers from their European brothers. 

The "International" or "World" part of the UK socialist movement seems to have died a very long time ago.

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5 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said:

There shouldn't be though. 

Should there?    

I don't understand Corbyn's stance. If he really believes in Socialism, which is a global movement, he should not be in favour of isolating the UK workers from their European brothers. 

We do not (or certainly should not) have a situation where policy in any political party is dictated by one person even if that person is leader.

Therefore there will always be situations where a party leader is at odds with his/her/their party on policy issues.

I disagree with Corbyn on the EU but I understand where he’s coming from.  He sees the EU as a pan-capitalist organisation and he’s correct to a great degree.

The problem is that he fails to recognise the implications of the alternative which will be significantly worse.

Socialism in one country cannot work.

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21 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said:

There shouldn't be though. 

Should there?    

I don't understand Corbyn's stance. If he really believes in Socialism, which is a global movement, he should not be in favour of isolating the UK workers from their European brothers. 

He's a national socialist m8. A real popular choice.

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