Tartan Tammy 1297 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Anybody got any good arguments to stay in the union Or can they tell me why Scotland can not be a successful Independent country? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieson87 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 If there was a decent, competent government in power, I'd argue for the union. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Tammy 1297 Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, jamieson87 said: If there was a decent, competent government in power, I'd argue for the union. But there has never been and Scotland is always a mere after thought with them the people not the resources the resources are at the top off there agenda and how to hold on to them for longer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, jamieson87 said: If there was a decent, competent government in power, I'd argue for the union. Why would you rather have a decent, competent government in power from London, when you can have one much closer to home? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, jamieson87 said: If there was a decent, competent government in power, I'd argue for the union. Can you highlight a period when there was one? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Tammy 1297 Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 minute ago, ICTJohnboy said: Can you highlight a period when there was one? What I am wanting to know to I am going on 43 Only decent goverments been in Scotland but they could be better to if they had real powers off a Indy country the way it should be 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Unless you accept "Eh, because, eh?" as a positive case, I don't think you're going to get one. But it seriously baffles me why it isn't a 100% open and shut case no matter your politics. Left: No more perma-right wing government Right: Standing on your own two feet and not accepting subsidies () is quite literally your bag Centrists: A country of just 5.5 million will be ripping the piss out of you instead of a "country" of 66 million 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 The Unholy Trinity of reasons- Rangers FC. "Lose ma pension". Shat it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Tammy 1297 Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cerberus said: The Unholy Trinity of reasons- Rangers FC. "Lose ma pension". Shat it. Take my football team out off it please I find that highly offensive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Blue passports, the BBC and the royal family. Now shut the f**k up and eat your cereal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Take my football team out off it please I find that highly offensive U ok ***? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Tammy 1297 Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: 59 minutes ago, Tartan Tammy 1297 said: Take my football team out off it please I find that highly offensive U ok ***? Just dont like Rangers getting used as the punching bag again When most off us clearly voted yes unlike the rest off Scotland accept for Dundee Edited May 9, 2019 by Tartan Tammy 1297 Clarity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Queen and country. The Dunkirk Spirit. Project Fear reversed - the currency, pensions etc are great in the UK apparently 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Giving us the privilege of watching early rounds of the FA Cup on bbc Scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Orange Marches England games on terrestrial TV The Jingoism of the proms, celebrating nuclear bombs, covering up for peados, offshoring, stealing from the public...all the good shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Anybody got any good arguments to stay in the union Or can they tell me why Scotland can not be a successful Independent country? Aye, you being behind independence has put me right off the idea. I was a member of the SNP & often contributed to the YES cause outwith the SNP. These days are now past & im staunch as f**k now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) There isn't a good case for allowing another country to govern you. The fundamental way I explain to people.from elsewhere is take france, America, any country you want. Regardless of whether you agree with their policies or not, every country in the world has a government every single time that does what it believes to.be.in the best interests of that country. As part of the UK Scotland has never had that for even one day and never could, and we actually have governments who very often do things they know to be damaging to Scotland, but because they benefit another country they do them anyway. I fundamentally believe two things - Scotland deserves to be governed by people for whom what's best for Scotland is their overriding priority, and any Scottish government would govern Scotland better than any government from another country for whom we're an afterthought and nuisance. Edited May 9, 2019 by Kuro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 There really isn't one. There isn't even the illusion of maintaining the status quo, because British politics is such a clusterfuck that there really isn't a "status quo" to be maintained and things are only going to get worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Something about Broad shoulders 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 The positive case: "We've been through so much together." Spoiler Such as the Highland Clearances following the Battle of Culloden, the Battle of George Square, the Poll Tax, the 1746 Dress Act, the Maritime Border shift, the McCrone cover up, nuclear subs and consecutive conservative governments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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