Ginaro Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Assuming no changes to the format, with Cove going up it means round 1 will contain:- 15 HL, 14 LL and 7 from the preliminary rounds (36 teams)? If Auchinleck win the Junior Cup then it'll be 3 byes and 11 fixtures in PR1 (otherwise 2 byes and 12 fixtures)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) I think you're slightly awry HL/LL-wise. If we assume no format alteration... and tbh I wouldn't expect any given how the authorities at Hampden have been disposed toward matters recently... and Largs not beating Auchinleck next Sunday, and Banks o'Dee not joining the Highland League for next season - tournament would look like this:First Preliminary Round (25 - 3 receive random byes) - Blackburn, Broxburn, Camelon [Q], Hill of Beath, Linlithgow, Penicuik, Bonnyrigg [Q]/Whitehill (7) - Newton Stewart, St Cuthbert, Threave, Wigtown (4) - Burntisland, Coldstream, Easthouses, Hawick, LTHV, Preston, Tynecastle (7) - Golspie (1) - Banks o'Dee (1) - Lochee [Q] (1) - Auchinleck [Q], Girvan (2) - Colville/Eastfield [Q], Glasgow University (2) [3 clubs not marked (Q) receive random byes]Second Preliminary Round (14) - 11 winners from PR1 - 3 byes from PR1First Round (36) - 7 winners from PR2 - Civil Service, Cumbernauld, Dalbeattie, East Stirlingshire, Edinburgh University, Edusport, Gala, Gretna, Kelty, Spartans, University of Stirling, Vale of Leithen, Bonnyrigg/Whitehill (13) - Buckie, Clachnacuddin, Deveronvale, Formartine, Forres, Fort William, Fraserburgh, Huntly, Inverurie, Lossiemouth, Keith, Nairn, Rothes, Strathspey, Turriff, Wick (16)Second Round (32) - 18 winners from R1 - Albion Rovers, Annan, Brechin, Cove, Edinburgh City, Elgin, Cowdenbeath, Queen's Park, Stenhousemuir, Stirling Albion (10) - BSCG, Berwick, East Kilbride (3) - Brora (1)Third Round (32) - Alloa, Arbroath, Dunfermline, Morton, Partick, Queen of the South (6) - Airdrie, Clyde, Dumbarton, East Fife, Falkirk, Forfar, Peterhead, Raith, Stranraer, Montrose (10)Fourth Round (32) - Aberdeen, Celtic, Hamilton, Hearts, Hibs, Kilmarnock, Livingston, Motherwell, Rangers, Ross County, St Johnstone, Dundee Utd/St Mirren (12) - Ayr, Dundee, Inverness, Dundee Utd/St Mirren (4) Edited May 19, 2019 by HibeeJibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: I think you're slightly awry HL/LL-wise. Ah yes, got those numbers wrong but the total of 29 HL/LL was right - an extra club from PR2 being the main difference, handy given the amount of new clubs in the cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 You'd like to think with the new TV deal the SFA would try and get rid of the PR rounds and get everyone in at R1 stage to give the best chance of a decent live game, but...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Ah yes, got those numbers wrong but the total of 29 HL/LL was right - an extra club from PR2 being the main difference, handy given the amount of new clubs in the cup. Correct... if BoD joined HL they'd enter R1: leaving 24 clubs in PR1 (no byes) > 12 to PR2 > 6 to R1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpLok Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Correct... if BoD joined HL they'd enter R1: leaving 24 clubs in PR1 (no byes) > 12 to PR2 > 6 to R1. So if BoD joined HL and Largs won the Junior Cup either a rule change or an extra Preliminary Round would be required? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ShrimpLok said: So if BoD joined HL and Largs won the Junior Cup either a rule change or an extra Preliminary Round would be required? Correct. In this unlikely scenario - and again assuming no format alterations - 2 clubs would have to play an extra preliminary (I suppose 'PR1' with others becoming 'PR2' + 'PR3'), presumably in late July. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpLok Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Correct. In this unlikely scenario - and again assuming no format alterations - 2 clubs would have to play an extra preliminary (I suppose 'PR1' with others becoming 'PR2' + 'PR3'), presumably in late July. Thanks. Does seem unlikely this year but SFA are going to have to think about changes for 2020-21 to cope with the additional licensed clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick90 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 All this forgetting that SFA-SPFL is about preventing competition ... not to encourage it ... thus we have all these prelim rounds ... and few places available in later rounds, because of the unfair preferential treatment of some `members` over others ... ie SPFL over everyone else ... regardless who got beat by Auchinleck or anyone else. It is a complete sham ... and only brings football into disrepute ... just like the SPFL, Lowland, Highland system ... we need competition in this country ... and these clubs will make sure we don`t get it .. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Colville Park enter as Scottish Amateur Cup winners. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Talbot win Junior cup so only 3 Junior qualifiers next season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Talbot win Junior cup so only 3 Junior qualifiers next season 2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 2Don't get all technical on me [emoji23] OK let's say only 4 Junior clubs in next seasons comp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 With the final chance to qualify as a full member being at the June board meeting (Dundonald likely now they have floodlights), how many more spaces do the SFA have to play with before they need to change the format? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Don't get all technical on me OK let's say only 4 Junior clubs in next seasons comp. Correct . 2 minutes ago, Ginaro said: With the final chance to qualify as a full member being at the June board meeting (Dundonald likely now they have floodlights), how many more spaces do the SFA have to play with before they need to change the format? To mop-up previous points: BoD aren't joining HL, so you've got 25 clubs in PR1, of which 20 are eligible for 3 random byes to PR2. Alternatively upto 3 more clubs could come in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 When are the dates for the matches usually announced? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Shanner said: When are the dates for the matches usually announced? Now. HL fixture-list included:PR1 PR2 R1 Saturday 21st September R2 Saturday 19th October R3 Saturday 23rd November R4 Saturday 18th January R5 R6 SFs Final Saturday 9th May 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Now. HL fixture-list included:Final Saturday 9th May Surely not? That's a week before the Premiership ends, and there's no apparent reason for it to be played that early - not even Euro 2020, because the Champions League Final is Saturday 30th May, and the FA Cup final is Saturday 23rd May (so presumably no issues with Hampden needing to be "released" to UEFA). I'll be astonished if it's not Saturday 23rd May. Edited June 9, 2019 by The Master 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 54 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Now. HL fixture-list included:PR1 PR2 R1 Saturday 21st September R2 Saturday 19th October R3 Saturday 23rd November R4 Saturday 18th January R5 R6 SFs Final Saturday 9th May much obliged mr jibee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lanarkshire Jag Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 3 hours ago, The Master said: Surely not? That's a week before the Premiership ends, and there's no apparent reason for it to be played that early - not even Euro 2020, because the Champions League Final is Saturday 30th May, and the FA Cup final is Saturday 23rd May (so presumably no issues with Hampden needing to be "released" to UEFA). I'll be astonished if it's not Saturday 23rd May. Prepare to be astonished then. The fixture skeleton I've seen has the round dates as: PR1 PR2 R1 Saturday 21st September R2 Saturday 19th October R3 Saturday 23rd November R4 Saturday 18th January R5 Saturday 8th February R6 Saturday 29th February SFs Saturday 11th/Sunday 12th April Final Saturday 9th May 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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