The Moonster Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 20 hours ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Premier clubs won’t vote that through - what benefit do they get Surely they should look at the proposal for the good of Scottish football rather than serving themselves? Just like all lower league clubs should look at the Colts proposal whilst considering the bigger picture? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Surely they should look at the proposal for the good of Scottish football rather than serving themselves? Is this your first day in Scottish Football? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, The Master said: Is this your first day in Scottish Football? I'm not being serious, just having some fun with Cowden Coltboy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Adam101 said: I wouldn't say that has been our downfall tbh. It contributes but having 14 players taken to London for operations costing well in excess of £100k has burnt our fingers, but there is literally nothing you can do other to forecast that. The most we have had in previous season was 4 operations. Combine that with a fall in walk up revenue of over £100k than I don't think the board could really do much to protect the profits we have made in the last 4 seasons. Edit to add our club budgeted on last season's gate and merchandise sales so this is a factor in the club struggling, I think it's crazy that clubs have pumped up their players wages because they are going to Easter Road instead of building up cash reserves Yeah, there are obviously costs specific to Dunfermline in having to sack a management team and an insane number of injuries which have contributed and can’t be applied to other clubs, but I found the average wage point telling considering McArthur was talking in general terms about the whole division there. The club finishing top of this division gets £562,500. 5th gets £250K, 10th gets £175K. In the last season of the SFL in 2012/13, the respective amounts were £68K, £64K & £58K. If clubs have generally found themselves in financial difficulty through consistently throwing those six figure increases in revenue on the playing budget over the last six seasons, then they’ve only got themselves to blame really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: Yeah, there are obviously costs specific to Dunfermline in having to sack a management team and an insane number of injuries which have contributed and can’t be applied to other clubs, but I found the average wage point telling considering McArthur was talking in general terms about the whole division there. The club finishing top of this division gets £562,500. 5th gets £250K, 10th gets £175K. In the last season of the SFL in 2012/13, the respective amounts were £68K, £64K & £58K. If clubs have generally found themselves in financial difficulty through consistently throwing those six figure increases in revenue on the playing budget over the last six seasons, then they’ve only got themselves to blame really. Quite right any club spending serious cash on wages and agent fees in this division really need to have a look if it's sustainable. It clearly isint so if agents hard ball they are going to find that their players won't be playing in the Championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 More money than ever being spunked on player wages to produce the worst collective standard of football ever seen in the second tier; we've arrived at peak Scottish football now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, virginton said: More money than ever being spunked on player wages to produce the worst collective standard of football ever seen in the second tier; we've arrived at peak Scottish football now. IMO it coincides with more clubs staying 'at home' when it comes to recruitment on the whole. You pay more wages on perennial jobbers like Gary Harkins, Mark Kerr, Joe Cardle all whom have have the SPFL on their CV, that you do for better players from south of the border, who want less. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) On 16/05/2019 at 03:36, ArabAuslander said: Lower the prize money for the League Winners from 13% of the total prize pot, to 10%. It's hardly like that extra £400-600k is do or die for Celtic. Do you know, or know of Peter Lawwell? Edited May 17, 2019 by Sergeant Wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 It might just lead to even worse football if the coaching isn't any good but clubs being almost forced to play more young players *should* be a good thing in the long run. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 IMO it coincides with more clubs staying 'at home' when it comes to recruitment on the whole. You pay more wages on perennial jobbers like Gary Harkins, Mark Kerr, Joe Cardle all whom have have the SPFL on their CV, that you do for better players from south of the border, who want less.Most players in Scotland have the SPFL on their CV currently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 On 17/05/2019 at 10:17, The Moonster said: Surely they should look at the proposal for the good of Scottish football rather than serving themselves? Just like all lower league clubs should look at the Colts proposal whilst considering the bigger picture? Yes and the Old Firm will counter by saying so as part of the package our colts join SPFL as that is also good for Scottish football 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksandr Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Nah, definitely no colts team in the SFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Why not give each championship team a pick of two young players each from the top teams? Lowest team from last season gets first pick. That way most players would get more game time. Colt teams just benefit rangers and Celtic. I see Hamilton are going for youth next season, Celtic and Rangers could always do the same. If they are good enough they can play. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Why not give each championship team a pick of two young players each from the top teams? Lowest team from last season gets first pick. That way most players would get more game time. Colt teams just benefit rangers and Celtic. I see Hamilton are going for youth next season, Celtic and Rangers could always do the same. If they are good enough they can play.They were going to try that a few years back, think Gordon Strachan suggested it. Craig Levein and others started moaning they wanted a say in what clubs their young players go to so it was scrapped.Same old problem in Scottish Football everybody just thinking of themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksandr Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Is there a league in the world today with 42 teams in it? The uniqueness would only add to the TV money, what with the end of season drama being seconded to none 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Is there a league in the world today with 42 teams in it? The uniqueness would only add to the TV money, what with the end of season drama being seconded to noneI think there’s a reason why this idea is unique, tbh.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 On 17/05/2019 at 16:46, Stellaboz said: On 17/05/2019 at 14:52, TheScarf said: IMO it coincides with more clubs staying 'at home' when it comes to recruitment on the whole. You pay more wages on perennial jobbers like Gary Harkins, Mark Kerr, Joe Cardle all whom have have the SPFL on their CV, that you do for better players from south of the border, who want less. Most players in Scotland have the SPFL on their CV currently. Yip, even the Berwick ones can make that claim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksandr Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Yip, even the Berwick ones can make that claim. I think he means SPL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Oleksandr said: I think he means SPL I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksandr Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: I know. Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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