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Rossvale to ground share with Benburb

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24 minutes ago, griffiti on the wall said:

someone phoned the football intelligence unit to meet us 

Did they find any?

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Southside AFC used Tinto a fair amount in recent years but they have just announced they're being absorbed into Giffnock North, playing out of the latter's park, in the Caley next season.  Frees up a saturday PM slot.

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On 06/05/2019 at 11:40, griffiti on the wall said:

That is the second pitch built on there for Rossvale as the dimensions for the 1st pitch and surrounds given were wrong and it had to be ripped up and rebuilt .
A helluva lot of tax payers money wasted with this venture

Once again you are making statements that are incorrect. The original astro was not nor ever considered for the Juniors. It was never ripped up, but refurbed when the facility was being built as it had to be moved fifteen feet to allow the new running track to be laid.It was always a separate entity, which allowed us to set up the Juniors due to saving significant costs as it brought the Club to one location. 

The Juniors were always going to play out of Petershill at the start. How do I know, I set up the Junior team. We were actually approached when Petershill was first open to go there and fill the training slots but the costings were prohibitive. Laterally ground sharing with Petershill was logical due to the difficulty of Glasgow Life not being able to fill the slot when Petershill are away. 

As said before, on another thread, all the Clubs were shut out of the design phase, by the Leisure Trust, when we pointed out numerous flaws, such as insufficient car parking spaces especially Tuesday/Thursday nights and Saturday mornings. 

There was significant frustration on all the Clubs based at Huntershill due to the lack of engagement. The Tennis Club stated at the beginning they were not moving, yet three floodlit astro courts were built and lie mainly empty. 

Original drawings showed a full length viewing area on the changing room side, yet when the buildings went up it was clear this had been omitted. They then stuck the two spectator areas as an after thought when we kicked up. 

Huntershill before the new facility was built, with the original astro and three grass was the only profitable football facility in East Dunbartonshire. It is now losing money. In the course of about 15 years we have paid around a million pounds in rental fees to EDC, whether for Huntershill or school let's. 

The original astro was built for the youth teams as that was the tie in with part payment with Cashback for Communities, with us covering the rest. This application was supported by the SYFA. No taxpayers money was used. 

The Council had met with myself recently and were looking to put concrete terracing in, with a view to paying for it themselves. This could have taken the capacity up to 4-500. The other suggestion was to remove the fencing down to about four feet, which would have a minimal cost impact, but this was refused. However due to the Trust, who manage the facility, unwilling to budge on things like leaving banners up, or pie stall etc, things that wouldn't have cost anything it became a stalemate. Having to fight to get the basics was draining everyone. 

The feeling was if we could get a toe hold in to slowly change the facilities, then we could move it towards a more appropriate facility and try and access funding. We actually had a lot of backing from Councillors but even their support couldn't make the headway required. 

What has been frustrating is that the Council chased Celtic, Rangers, Partick Thistle and Glasgow City to base themselves in the district, but their lack of ambition has meant two East Dunbartonshire teams have to play outside the district. Rangers were believed to have been given a six figure sum to base Murray Park where it is. Glasgow City were offered land 400 yards from Huntershill to build their stadium. 

The main Club itself covers the Juniors pitch hire, training let's and kit at the start of every season. This is no secret, however our Constitution does not allow players to be paid, therefore if the Juniors go down that avenue, that is their responsibility. 

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We shared with the Ants for about 6 weeks recently & while we don't have the biggest home support in the world hardly any of them made the relatively short trip to Govan to watch us so the chances of the Rossvale support travelling there, would, I suspect, be small.  McKenna Park has a great pitch but it's wide open to the elements.

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How sustainable will this be for Rossvale? 

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On 13/05/2019 at 13:43, Taxman said:

We shared with the Ants for about 6 weeks recently & while we don't have the biggest home support in the world hardly any of them made the relatively short trip to Govan to watch us so the chances of the Rossvale support travelling there, would, I suspect, be small.  McKenna Park has a great pitch but it's wide open to the elements.

Fans travelling really isn't an issue. The people of North Glasgow won't even travel to Huntershill to watch the team. If Rossvale can't attract new fans from Bishopbriggs and surrounding areas, given the football they play and the success they have had in such a short period of time, then moving to Tinto Park, really won't affect much. 

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On 11/05/2019 at 07:27, valeman said:

Once again you are making statements that are incorrect. The original astro was not nor ever considered for the Juniors. It was never ripped up, but refurbed when the facility was being built as it had to be moved fifteen feet to allow the new running track to be laid.It was always a separate entity, which allowed us to set up the Juniors due to saving significant costs as it brought the Club to one location. 

The Juniors were always going to play out of Petershill at the start. How do I know, I set up the Junior team. We were actually approached when Petershill was first open to go there and fill the training slots but the costings were prohibitive. Laterally ground sharing with Petershill was logical due to the difficulty of Glasgow Life not being able to fill the slot when Petershill are away. 

As said before, on another thread, all the Clubs were shut out of the design phase, by the Leisure Trust, when we pointed out numerous flaws, such as insufficient car parking spaces especially Tuesday/Thursday nights and Saturday mornings. 

There was significant frustration on all the Clubs based at Huntershill due to the lack of engagement. The Tennis Club stated at the beginning they were not moving, yet three floodlit astro courts were built and lie mainly empty. 

Original drawings showed a full length viewing area on the changing room side, yet when the buildings went up it was clear this had been omitted. They then stuck the two spectator areas as an after thought when we kicked up. 

Huntershill before the new facility was built, with the original astro and three grass was the only profitable football facility in East Dunbartonshire. It is now losing money. In the course of about 15 years we have paid around a million pounds in rental fees to EDC, whether for Huntershill or school let's. 

The original astro was built for the youth teams as that was the tie in with part payment with Cashback for Communities, with us covering the rest. This application was supported by the SYFA. No taxpayers money was used. 

The Council had met with myself recently and were looking to put concrete terracing in, with a view to paying for it themselves. This could have taken the capacity up to 4-500. The other suggestion was to remove the fencing down to about four feet, which would have a minimal cost impact, but this was refused. However due to the Trust, who manage the facility, unwilling to budge on things like leaving banners up, or pie stall etc, things that wouldn't have cost anything it became a stalemate. Having to fight to get the basics was draining everyone. 

The feeling was if we could get a toe hold in to slowly change the facilities, then we could move it towards a more appropriate facility and try and access funding. We actually had a lot of backing from Councillors but even their support couldn't make the headway required. 

What has been frustrating is that the Council chased Celtic, Rangers, Partick Thistle and Glasgow City to base themselves in the district, but their lack of ambition has meant two East Dunbartonshire teams have to play outside the district. Rangers were believed to have been given a six figure sum to base Murray Park where it is. Glasgow City were offered land 400 yards from Huntershill to build their stadium. 

The main Club itself covers the Juniors pitch hire, training let's and kit at the start of every season. This is no secret, however our Constitution does not allow players to be paid, therefore if the Juniors go down that avenue, that is their responsibility. 

Probably the most honest and open post on here. Good luck to you guys when you go up.

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