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Dundee's Next Permanent Manager

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James McPake saying he's interested in becoming a manager but won't disrespect the club he loves by declaring that he wants the job as he believes he's not in a position one way or another to have a say considering how much the club has done for him in the past.

Paul McGowan says he'd like the job to be given to McPake as he's brought a 'freshness' and he pretty much used the fatal line, 'it's only the Championship'.

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1 minute ago, Ludo*1 said:

Paul McGowan [...] pretty much used the fatal line, 'it's only the Championship'.

God damnit, Gowser... not the attitude we need to hear.

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1 hour ago, RossBFaeDundee said:

God damnit, Gowser... not the attitude we need to hear.

Having watched the interview online now, the way it's been written is harsh. Doesn't mean it like that tbf to him. 

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James McPake saying he's interested in becoming a manager but won't disrespect the club he loves by declaring that he wants the job as he believes he's not in a position one way or another to have a say considering how much the club has done for him in the past.
Paul McGowan says he'd like the job to be given to McPake as he's brought a 'freshness' and he pretty much used the fatal line, 'it's only the Championship'.


He also said he should get it because McPake is his mate.

TBF McPake came over pretty well but he’s a number 2 at this stage of his career imo.

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2 minutes ago, Fifespud said:

 


He also said he should get it because McPake is his mate.

TBF McPake came over pretty well but he’s a number 2 at this stage of his career imo.

 

Based on what? It's the next step for him in terms of career progression. McPake would be one of my favoured options provided we could get someone with heavy experience in as his number 2.

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Based on what? It's the next step for him in terms of career progression. McPake would be one of my favoured options provided we could get someone with heavy experience in as his number 2.

 

Based on the fact he’s got no experience whatsoever. Surely you want an experienced manager and a number 2 learning the ropes as he progresses - not the other way around. Sometimes you have a superstar player as a new manager, who has an aura and can attract star players with a solid number 2 but McPake wasn’t that and we aren’t Barcelona. His next career progression would be as an assistant manager or managing a smaller club. Our fans would rip him up for bog paper if he didn’t deliver.

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Just now, Fifespud said:

 


Based on the fact he’s got no experience whatsoever. Surely you want an experienced manager and a number 2 learning the ropes as he progresses - not the other way around. Sometimes you have a superstar player as a new manager, who has an aura and can attract star players with a solid number 2 but McPake wasn’t that and we aren’t Barcelona

 

Jim McIntyre was the most experienced manager we've had since Chisholm. 

90% of managers that have lots of experience either aren't very good or have a lot of baggage. 

I'd rather we went for someone who already knows what youth talent we have that can be supported by an older statesman type tbh.

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Bobby Wiliamson stepped up when Alex Totten parted with Killie and we won the Scottish Cup.

Kenny Sheils  took over the reigns when Mixu left for Finland and we won the league cup.

Sometimes promoting from within works wonders.

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Jim McIntyre was the most experienced manager we've had since Chisholm. 
90% of managers that have lots of experience either aren't very good or have a lot of baggage. 
I'd rather we went for someone who already knows what youth talent we have that can be supported by an older statesman type tbh.

Do you say experienced or shite and shafted from all prior jobs?

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I wouldn’t be disappointed if McPake was given the job. He’s clearly liked within our support and has the desired badges to be a manager. Obviously experience is a key issue here but everyone has to start somewhere. I do how ever think we need an experienced manager to try get out of the division first time of asking but I’d give McPake a chance if appointed.

I wouldn’t like to see McPake fail and get punted out the club the same way Jimmy Boyle has though.

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That’s a fair assessment, I’ve always thought that as well to be honest. But in this interview, I thought he spoke very well about the game. 
Its never going to happen anyway. 


Smith would be a good appointment in the sense that you could just choose not to go and play any league fixture when it suited you, with absolutely zero punishment.

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Latest odds. Adams up tied with McPake. Jim McInally has confirmed he's staying with Peterhead next season.

Edited by RossBFaeDundee

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I can't believe folk were actually seriously considering Jim McInally. 

Mental. 

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Ketsbaia has came from nowhere.

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Thankfully the loose cannon known as Kenny Shiels has rocked up as the manager of the NI Womens team (I'm sure those lassies will be thrilled).

I would've flipped my wig big style if that daftie came within a country mile of Dens.

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2 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:

Ketsbaia has came from nowhere.

One of your fans will have stuck a tenner on him.

Baffles me folk get so obsessed with Scottish manager odds.

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2 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:

Ketsbaia has came from nowhere.

If I’m right and that Ketsbaia is the manager of a rich club in Russia we’ve no chance. 

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27 minutes ago, Yenitit said:

If I’m right and that Ketsbaia is the manager of a rich club in Russia we’ve no chance. 

He is managing in Cyprus, but to my knowledge he just took the job this year.

But regardless he is just one of those foreign names that seems to get tossed around whenever we have a vacancy. Throw a foreign name with a connection to Dundee into the bookie's list for some flavour.

If a guy like Temuri took over we'd have a team full of Georgians and Greeks and either win the league by 25 pts or we'd pull a Falkirk. There is always some allure with the foreign name, but I really think we need a guy that has some knowledge (current like) of the Scottish leagues.

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I'd love Temuri. He's experience at much bigger clubs than us and has been mostly a success bar some bizarre circumstances at certain clubs.

I'd score John Robertson off the list though. Let his side down tonight by getting sent off at the point they needed him most. 

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