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Dodds is being a slavering mess as usual in that article, but am I giving Duffy and McCann too much credit to think that their comments are more about hiring someone above their abilities then sacking them when they inevitably fail?

That is to say, what's "not right" isn't that McIntyre was sacked, but that he was employed in the first place to do a job he was incapable of doing?

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4 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

Just find the comments bizarre.

I don't believe they are really baffled by the decision. Mcintyre was brought in as almost a Sam Allardyce figure, his objective was to keep Dundee in the league. He failed miserably and he's completely lost the support, not to mention the 10 defeats in a row.

Dodds unrealistic expectations comments make it sound like you just missed out on the top 6.

I just don't think for a second they really believe what they're saying there.

Don't underestimate people in football, some absolutely delusional thickos out there.

I think the comments on McCann were maybe more valid in the sense that, if you give a guy a job and encourage him to unearth non-league talent, it's going to be really tough going if you're heading into a season with a starting line-up full of inexperienced players. Maybe, you can say that he was pushed in that direction so we maybe should have given him more of a chance to continue his ideas and adapt a little bit with some more experienced players (as opposed to the complete abandonment) but personally, I think the damage was done and our only choice was a new man given how woefully balanced McCann's recruitment was in cover for each position - I couldn't see things getting much better.

That being said, playing devils advocate, I find it astonishing that there's any defence of McIntyre. If they knew how stupid they are sounding, they wouldn't be saying it. He had a really tough job IMO but he was well backed and failed in the worst possible way. The Dodds thing is just a bit of ammunition that they cling to, if he was that out of his depth without this one particular coach by his side; he really shouldn't be working as a football manager in the full-time leagues again.

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7 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

Just find the comments bizarre.

I don't believe they are really baffled by the decision. Mcintyre was brought in as almost a Sam Allardyce figure, his objective was to keep Dundee in the league. He failed miserably and he's completely lost the support, not to mention the 10 defeats in a row.

Dodds unrealistic expectations comments make it sound like you just missed out on the top 6.

I just don't think for a second they really believe what they're saying there.

These clowns are talking as if Dundee were a plucky part time club amongst some full time teams i.e., Alloa. We've got the 6th biggest budget in the country, McIntyre was allowed to sign his buddies, given funds to pay off half of McCann's team, and to bring in 12 (TWELVE!) new players for fecks sake! They allowed him to buy a player under contract down south. The other managers in the bottom half of the table didn't have this luxury. He's made us worse than we were under McCann, IMO.

We won 4 games out of 31 with him in charge, and one of those games was the meaningless game this past weekend. This was also the first game where he put our two best strikers on the pitch from the start and where they promptly link up and score. We lost 10 in a row with him in charge. 

All of us Dees would have been relieved even happy to get to tenth this season. Some managers are treated unfairly, McIntyre sure as hell isn't one of them. Our fans have had the life beaten out of us the last few seasons so much so that JM didn't even face any real venom at Dens until the last home game.

This is absurd.

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The defence of McIntyre is that he’s a manager who will get decent teams playing decent attacking football, but not one who will achieve great things when it’s a case of backs against the wall. So basically, the defence of McIntyre is that he was a ridiculous appointment.

 

Edit: the Dodds thing is important. Would things have been better if Dodds was appointed as assistant? Probably not, but the impression was that McIntyre wasn’t given the freedom to make his own decisions. It was a negative start to an inevitable failure and any “new managerial bounce”, if such a thing exists, was lost.

 

Edit2: The Dodds thing is also completely irrelevant. Dodds is an effective coach and, by surprisingly numerous accounts, an amiable guy, but it isn’t a case that because he wasn’t appointed, Dundee got relegated. He’s suddenly become the best assistant manager in history.

 

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Hope you get Goodwin at take some pressure off us down at the bottom. Alloa were only two points behind us and Alloa's Alan Trouten was the top scorer at East End Park this season. 

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Going from McCann to McIntyre was like having a broken leg, going for an operation, then waking up to be told they’d amputated both your legs.

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13 minutes ago, K.T said:

Going from McCann to McIntyre was like having a broken leg, going for an operation, then waking up to be told they’d amputated both your legs.

What will it be like when Kenny Miller is appointed?  

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9 minutes ago, SlipperyP said:

What will it be like when Kenny Miller is appointed?  

An isis decapitation video. 

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What will it be like when Kenny Miller is appointed?  


Getting a wheelchair with flat tyres.

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James McPake to be in charge on Saturday according to The Scotsman, but not being viewed as a potential permanent option.

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1 hour ago, SlipperyP said:

What will it be like when Kenny Miller is appointed?  

Watching United. Vile.

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Hmm, John Houghton sacked by Brighton


Who?

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17 minutes ago, Twinkle said:


 

 


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Exactly what I wanna hear from others before he becomes our Steve Clarke. People won't know who he is when he randomly changes his name from Chris to John Hughton just to make up for a cock-up by a certain Dundee fan.

Edited by RossBFaeDundee

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11 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

John Houghton, aye?

You shut your mouth, let me live in a world of fruitless hope until we announce Kenny Miller as manager next week. If I want to mash up John Robertson and Chris Hughton I will, damnit.

 

 

Fucking twat I am haha.

Edited by RossBFaeDundee

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You shut your mouth, let me live in a world of fruitless hope until we announce Kenny Miller as manager next week. If I want to mash up John Robertson and Chris Hughton I will, damnit.
 
 
Fucking twat I am haha.


Barry Miller, surely.

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I'm sure Hughtons next career move after an EPL side is a ramshackle second tier Scottish side, who haemorrhage money, and havent achieved anything for 40 years.

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