Ludo*1 Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 Laughable article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48249228 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Why wouldn't they? If they don't go up he's under performed significantly. Most of his signings have failed.I can 100% guarantee you they will give him one more year . the 19 draws have failed them this season but the owner is 100% behind him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 If am being honest Jim Goodwin is your man but am not sure he would take it . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Laughable article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48249228 "There doesn't seem to be a structure of where they want to go or what they want to do," said Duffy. "If you employ a young manager and you say, 'this is where we want to go', you have to give him time. Failing that, say to a manager, 'there's a one-year contract, here's where we want to be. If you're there at the end of the season we'll keep you on'. Erm, that's exactly what happened, Jim. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 hours ago, dd23 said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kenny-miller-set-become-dundee-15500577 Anybody got a donkey i can pin the tail on? (must be a wind up, must be, must be, must be....) Looks like it's already deleted, seems it's a load of rubbish (thank Christ...) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 A lot of managers get sacked harshly, Jim Mcintyre isn't one of them. I think the sportsound guys (assuming that's where the quotes have come from) are being wilfully dishonest in their assessment there. If that was a foreign manager or someone they don't know then no way they'd be giving it that shite. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 I can't believe Neil McCann is trotting out with, 'It's not right and it's not normal' that two managers have lost their job. Him being one. He was a disgrace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srw Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Laughable article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48249228 The comments were taken from BBC Sportsound... Neil McCann spoke the most sense, surprisingly, however, his head is completely in the sand regarding his time at the club. Jim Duffy was speaking about being in the Premiership for 4/5 seasons and looking for direction to go forward, that is exactly what the club have done, unfortunately the very poor managers have lead to the clubs direction being 180 from where we wanted it to go. Billy Dodds was saying that the fans have unrealistic expectations, my expectations were not to be relegated nor have 10 successive defeats. Its worth noting that last season, and the early part of this season, the media were pretty damning on McCanns team, played about OK, but nothing up front and a colander at the back would be a fair assessment, as soon as he is on the BBC they all change the tune to, it was close to clicking, you can see what you were trying to do etc. The media simply can not be trusted IMO. Its not just a DFC thing, its a Scottish fitba thing, they are falling over themselves to get Lennon the job at Celtic, ridiculous decision, Celtic need much better, they defended McLeish to the absolute ridiculous degree for Scotland etc etc Now they will put forward the usual media paly names for the job, Stubbs, Hughes etc Our media is complicit with the downfall of our game as much as the SFA are, lower expectations, say failure is fine, downplay anything positive. Im sick of Scottish fitba, its rotten to the very core. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srw Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: A lot of managers get sacked harshly, Jim Mcintyre isn't one of them. I think the sportsound guys (assuming that's where the quotes have come from) are being wilfully dishonest in their assessment there. If that was a foreign manager or someone they don't know then no way they'd be giving it that shite. Abso fucking lutely correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) Hmm, Chris Houghton sacked by Brighton for being a good manager that has provided nothing but success for them? I think we all know what happens next... Edited May 13, 2019 by RossBFaeDundee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, srw said: Abso fucking lutely correct. Just find the comments bizarre. I don't believe they are really baffled by the decision. Mcintyre was brought in as almost a Sam Allardyce figure, his objective was to keep Dundee in the league. He failed miserably and he's completely lost the support, not to mention the 10 defeats in a row. Dodds unrealistic expectations comments make it sound like you just missed out on the top 6. I just don't think for a second they really believe what they're saying there. Edited May 13, 2019 by Dons_1988 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Dodds is being a slavering mess as usual in that article, but am I giving Duffy and McCann too much credit to think that their comments are more about hiring someone above their abilities then sacking them when they inevitably fail? That is to say, what's "not right" isn't that McIntyre was sacked, but that he was employed in the first place to do a job he was incapable of doing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiekranky Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Kenny Miller and John Brown...…………………..surely no ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Just find the comments bizarre. I don't believe they are really baffled by the decision. Mcintyre was brought in as almost a Sam Allardyce figure, his objective was to keep Dundee in the league. He failed miserably and he's completely lost the support, not to mention the 10 defeats in a row. Dodds unrealistic expectations comments make it sound like you just missed out on the top 6. I just don't think for a second they really believe what they're saying there. Don't underestimate people in football, some absolutely delusional thickos out there. I think the comments on McCann were maybe more valid in the sense that, if you give a guy a job and encourage him to unearth non-league talent, it's going to be really tough going if you're heading into a season with a starting line-up full of inexperienced players. Maybe, you can say that he was pushed in that direction so we maybe should have given him more of a chance to continue his ideas and adapt a little bit with some more experienced players (as opposed to the complete abandonment) but personally, I think the damage was done and our only choice was a new man given how woefully balanced McCann's recruitment was in cover for each position - I couldn't see things getting much better. That being said, playing devils advocate, I find it astonishing that there's any defence of McIntyre. If they knew how stupid they are sounding, they wouldn't be saying it. He had a really tough job IMO but he was well backed and failed in the worst possible way. The Dodds thing is just a bit of ammunition that they cling to, if he was that out of his depth without this one particular coach by his side; he really shouldn't be working as a football manager in the full-time leagues again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianDee Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Just find the comments bizarre. I don't believe they are really baffled by the decision. Mcintyre was brought in as almost a Sam Allardyce figure, his objective was to keep Dundee in the league. He failed miserably and he's completely lost the support, not to mention the 10 defeats in a row. Dodds unrealistic expectations comments make it sound like you just missed out on the top 6. I just don't think for a second they really believe what they're saying there. These clowns are talking as if Dundee were a plucky part time club amongst some full time teams i.e., Alloa. We've got the 6th biggest budget in the country, McIntyre was allowed to sign his buddies, given funds to pay off half of McCann's team, and to bring in 12 (TWELVE!) new players for fecks sake! They allowed him to buy a player under contract down south. The other managers in the bottom half of the table didn't have this luxury. He's made us worse than we were under McCann, IMO. We won 4 games out of 31 with him in charge, and one of those games was the meaningless game this past weekend. This was also the first game where he put our two best strikers on the pitch from the start and where they promptly link up and score. We lost 10 in a row with him in charge. All of us Dees would have been relieved even happy to get to tenth this season. Some managers are treated unfairly, McIntyre sure as hell isn't one of them. Our fans have had the life beaten out of us the last few seasons so much so that JM didn't even face any real venom at Dens until the last home game. This is absurd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 The defence of McIntyre is that he’s a manager who will get decent teams playing decent attacking football, but not one who will achieve great things when it’s a case of backs against the wall. So basically, the defence of McIntyre is that he was a ridiculous appointment. Edit: the Dodds thing is important. Would things have been better if Dodds was appointed as assistant? Probably not, but the impression was that McIntyre wasn’t given the freedom to make his own decisions. It was a negative start to an inevitable failure and any “new managerial bounce”, if such a thing exists, was lost. Edit2: The Dodds thing is also completely irrelevant. Dodds is an effective coach and, by surprisingly numerous accounts, an amiable guy, but it isn’t a case that because he wasn’t appointed, Dundee got relegated. He’s suddenly become the best assistant manager in history. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cicero Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Saw a few Dundee lads looking worse for wear yesterday at Dominos, City Quay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Hope you get Goodwin at take some pressure off us down at the bottom. Alloa were only two points behind us and Alloa's Alan Trouten was the top scorer at East End Park this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Going from McCann to McIntyre was like having a broken leg, going for an operation, then waking up to be told they’d amputated both your legs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, K.T said: Going from McCann to McIntyre was like having a broken leg, going for an operation, then waking up to be told they’d amputated both your legs. What will it be like when Kenny Miller is appointed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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