Falcor Roar Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 21:58, forameus said: Yes, the boy born in Lambeth, to parents from the Ivory Coast, is definitely Scottish. If we're defining things, he's either English or Ivorian. In football terms, he can be Scottish, Ivorian or English. He sounds like he's choosing England either because he feels English, doesn't feel particularly Scottish, or just wants the best from a short career given the talent he has, or a mix of all of them. My money's on the latter though. And to be honest, although I'd love for him to represent us, people like you will only cement his decision. What absolute nonsense. Where a person is raised is material to a person's sense of nationality. For myself it would be the most important factor by a long way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Falcor Roar said: What absolute nonsense. Where a person is raised is material to a person's sense of nationality. For myself it would be the most important factor by a long way. This. He's Scottish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 This. He's Scottish.From your point of view.From his, he might not be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Yeah? Where’s the next British grand slam winner? 1 winner in 20 years since Andy went to Spain isn’t working well for tennis. It’s worked for him great. Sport didn’t capitalise at all on his success.Ignore my ignorance in matters of tennis but in the men’s game what country has had more than one male win a grand slam in the last 20 years?Do you think the Swiss approach to tennis is poor because they have only had 1 winner in 20 years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Falcor Roar said: What absolute nonsense. Where a person is raised is material to a person's sense of nationality. For myself it would be the most important factor by a long way. And for you, that's fine. But it's not necessarily for him. He may not even feel particularly English or Scottish given his Ivorian parents. You really can't tell. But all of it is, frankly, irrelevant. He'll choose who he wants to play with, and if that isn't us then that's very disappointing, but it's neither surprising nor worth overly lamenting. We have far more problems to worry about rather than castigating a 16 year old for making a career choice. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 21/04/2019 at 17:56, Tartan Tammy 1297 said: Your no Shakespear yourself Wonderful 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 11 hours ago, Dindeleux said: Ignore my ignorance in matters of tennis but in the men’s game what country has had more than one male win a grand slam in the last 20 years? Do you think the Swiss approach to tennis is poor because they have only had 1 winner in 20 years? No, mainly because they've had two. Three if you include women. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: No, mainly because they've had two. Three if you include women. Probably because they were practising tennis while the rest of us were fighting Jerry... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 9 hours ago, forameus said: And for you, that's fine. But it's not necessarily for him. He may not even feel particularly English or Scottish given his Ivorian parents. You really can't tell. But all of it is, frankly, irrelevant. He'll choose who he wants to play with, and if that isn't us then that's very disappointing, but it's neither surprising nor worth overly lamenting. We have far more problems to worry about rather than castigating a 16 year old for making a career choice. But you've claimed that he is either Ivorian or English only which is patently bollocks given that he was raised in Scotland and is entitled to feel Scottish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieD Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 01/05/2019 at 01:09, Dindeleux said: Ignore my ignorance in matters of tennis but in the men’s game what country has had more than one male win a grand slam in the last 20 years? Do you think the Swiss approach to tennis is poor because they have only had 1 winner in 20 years? Well, Switzerland for one. USA and Spain for others. Women’s game has multiple nationalities winning slams. Both also have multiple nationalities reaching QF’s and SF’s on a regular basis. Britain hasn’t capitalised on Murray’s success in the slightest. Might be another hundred years before the next male champion. Women’s game is piss poor. Our best player is Australian! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 5/1/2019 at 01:09, Dindeleux said: Ignore my ignorance in matters of tennis but in the men’s game what country has had more than one male win a grand slam in the last 20 years? Do you think the Swiss approach to tennis is poor because they have only had 1 winner in 20 years? Stan Wawrinka and Roger Federer are both Swiss, as far as I'm aware. Anyway, USA, Spain and Argentina have all produced more than one Winner in the past 20 years. The problem with the comparison to Tennis is that period is that 3 men, widely regarded as the 3 best ever, have dominated the grand slams for the best part of the past 20 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 There was some suggestion earlier in the thread that he didn’t look that great, I thought his touch and awareness was fantastic for a 16 year old. He favoured an early 20 yard weighted pass over unnecessary multiple step overs, and this for me is a sign of a good player. Looking ahead, the only thing holding him back might be pace but this could be linked to height, as he’s still tiny. The other downside is him apparently being English. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 9 hours ago, RobbieD said: Well, Switzerland for one. USA and Spain for others. Women’s game has multiple nationalities winning slams. Both also have multiple nationalities reaching QF’s and SF’s on a regular basis. Britain hasn’t capitalised on Murray’s success in the slightest. Might be another hundred years before the next male champion. Women’s game is piss poor. Our best player is Australian! 8 hours ago, MONKMAN said: Stan Wawrinka and Roger Federer are both Swiss, as far as I'm aware. Anyway, USA, Spain and Argentina have all produced more than one Winner in the past 20 years. The problem with the comparison to Tennis is that period is that 3 men, widely regarded as the 3 best ever, have dominated the grand slams for the best part of the past 20 years. Both of you clearly know more than me -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Both of you clearly know more than me [emoji4]Everyone does tbf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 43 minutes ago, Dindeleux said: Both of you clearly know more than me Everyone does tbf Not Gary Caldwell though. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 14 hours ago, Dindeleux said: Not Gary Caldwell though. Just think, on another timeline, the SFA looked at Caldwell saying "i'm the best man for the job" and replied with "you know what, heid? You're right!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IggyStooge Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 01/05/2019 at 01:09, Dindeleux said: Ignore my ignorance in matters of tennis but in the men’s game what country has had more than one male win a grand slam in the last 20 years? Spain (3) USA (3) Argentina (2) Australia (2) Russia (2) Croatia (2) Switzerland (2) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Dave Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Looking pretty bright for celtic so far. Hopefully he develops as well as is expected. Would be nice if he chose to represent scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tartan Dave said: Looking pretty bright for celtic so far. Hopefully he develops as well as is expected. Would be nice if he chose to represent scotland If he plays for Scotland hope he's pele, it not hope he's a fat waster stacking shelves in Tesco at 25 after a spell in rehab. Edited May 19, 2019 by Kuro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Looks like more of a Garrincha than a Pele 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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