Tibbermoresaint Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kuro said: "An accident, also known as an unintentional act, is an undesirable, incidental, and an unplanned event " Okay lets see, they didn't intend to hit her, they didn't desire to hit her, and they didn't plan to hit her. So yeah definitely accidental. They are culpable but its hardly murder. The act of firing the gun wasn't unintentional, it was entirely intentional. She's dead so it's certainly murder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, Kuro said: "An accident, also known as an unintentional act, is an undesirable, incidental, and an unplanned event " Okay lets see, they didn't intend to hit her, they didn't desire to hit her, and they didn't plan to hit her. So yeah definitely accidental. They are culpable but its hardly murder. Again, you're sanitizing a deliberate act. That the chap intended to fire a bullet was no accident whatsoever. That he intended to kill someone is entirely consonant with both Saoradh's statement and with the history of the Republicans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: A bird with dyed blue hair? Try again. the giant yellow and white thing. What political purpose do you think would be served by shooting a journalist simply covering events? You're displaying wilful ignorance. Its a tragedy and an abhorent act, but simply dishonest to suggest there's any chance at all she was the intended target. They're simply bad shots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Tibbermoresaint said: The act of firing the gun wasn't unintentional, it was entirely intentional. She's dead so it's certainly murder. Yes it was. Hitting her was entirely unintentional. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, The_Kincardine said: Again, you're sanitizing a deliberate act. That the chap intended to fire a bullet was no accident whatsoever. That he intended to kill someone is entirely consonant with both Saoradh's statement and with the history of the Republicans. He didn't intend to kill her, that's kind of the point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, Kuro said: Yes it was. Hitting her was entirely unintentional. Does that make her less dead? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Imagine defending a murderer because they were a poor shot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, Kuro said: Try again. the giant yellow and white thing. What political purpose do you think would be served by shooting a journalist simply covering events? You're displaying wilful ignorance. Its a tragedy and an abhorent act, but simply dishonest to suggest there's any chance at all she was the intended target. They're simply bad shots. They gave a kid a gun to fire at a crowd of locals and press next to a police van and you're trying to defend it? What the f**k went wrong with you, you utter lunatic? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Tibbermoresaint said: Does that make her less dead? I don't see your point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Kuro said: He didn't intend to kill her, that's kind of the point. That is absolutely abysmal posting. His intention was clearly to kill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, welshbairn said: They gave a kid a gun to fire at a crowd of locals and press next to a police van and you're trying to defend it? What the f**k went wrong with you, you utter lunatic? You'll need to point out where I defended it. I simply stated the incontrovertible fact nobody aimed at her and she wasn't the intended target. Her death was accidental. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, The_Kincardine said: That is absolutely abysmal posting. His intention was clearly to kill. Not her though was it? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kuro said: He didn't intend to kill her, that's kind of the point. So that makes it all OK then? Get a grip. He is criminally responsible for her death and that means a lengthy jail sentence regardless of whether he intended to murder her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Kuro said: I don't see your point. Of course you don't. That's because you're a sociopath who lacks empathy and doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, LongTimeLurker said: So that makes it all OK then? Get a grip. He is criminally responsible for her death and that means a lengthy jail sentence regardless of whether he intended to murder her. Again, show me where I said that makes it okay.... He is, but he won't be charged with murder, for the reasons I've outlined. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, Tibbermoresaint said: Of course you don't. That's because you're a sociopath who lacks empathy and doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong. Oh I see. Thanks for clearing that up. As soon as you quote where I said their actions were right... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kuro said: I simply stated the incontrovertible fact nobody aimed at her and she wasn't the intended target. How did she die then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Kuro said: Oh I see. Thanks for clearing that up. As soon as you quote where I said their actions were right... You're defending their actions... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Tibbermoresaint said: How did she die then? They missed their intended target and hit her instead. This is pretty basic stuff. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, Tibbermoresaint said: You're defending their actions... Am I? Quote me doing that then, any time you want... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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