Beenzon-Toste Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 The much easier solution to reform the cups. I can't grasp how the west region blazers can't see the bleedin obviousCan't reform any of the cups. It was only voted in at the AGM. So, according to Glensmad, it can't be changed till next year.Looks like the 'west region blazers' have already seen the bleedin obvious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot 1978 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Years delay shows that the sjfa is not fit to lead the junior clubs into the pyramid, have had a year to sort this and the shower of clowns haven’t been able to compromise. Now need leadership. With you at the helm? There's a thought[emoji23] -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beenzon-Toste Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Its pretty easy, scrap the sectional cup and do away with replays. Sorted. We don't have replays in the West Region. So, if you're meaning the Scottish Junior Cup, then why would the rest of the junior teams in Scotland vote to do away with replays to help out the West Premiership? They've resisted numerous attempts to eliminate replays in the past, I can't see that changing now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 We don't have replays in the West Region. So, if you're meaning the Scottish Junior Cup, then why would the rest of the junior teams in Scotland vote to do away with replays to help out the West Premiership? They've resisted numerous attempts to eliminate replays in the past, I can't see that changing now.I mean scrap Scottish replays and the sectional cup at least in its current format. Its not just the west premier joining the pyramid is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 The game is hating itself to death, the club's will need to come to some compromise very soon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow-wee Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) It's clear the problem lies with the clubs that qualify for the big Scottish are the ones that play most games is in recent years talbot and beith no fault on them that they are the most successful .talbot for example got to the final of the sectional and played 7 games to get there if that cup was mothballed then they would have played 25 league games and would be finished before the end of April so we would know who the champions were for the play offs .you could also make it that the teams who qualify for the big Scottish are either scratched from the West cup of at very least enter at the 3rd round its not as if they will lose out financially they are getting good money from the big Scottish that most other clubs would never see .looking at this season its not been a bad winter and quite a few premier club's season would be finished by now but because of the more successful club's teams are now waiting up to 8 weeks to play a handful of fixtures. So in my opinion scrap the sectional cup and let the teams who are in the BIG Scottish come in on the third round. Edited April 16, 2019 by wow-wee 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 If you can't scrap the sectional then why not play the knockout matches when possible throughout the season? The EOS have done that with their league cup - group games at the start of the season, only just coming to the end of the last 16 matches with Bonnyrigg playing tomorrow. You would gain back one or two midweeks in August and another Saturday for the finalists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow-wee Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ginaro said: If you can't scrap the sectional then why not play the knockout matches when possible throughout the season? The EOS have done that with their league cup - group games at the start of the season, only just coming to the end of the last 16 matches with Bonnyrigg playing tomorrow. You would gain back one or two midweeks in August and another Saturday for the finalists. But the biggest problem here in the West is the successful teams still play too many games over the season and that affects the rest of the other teams in the league I don't think moving cup games to different times in the season is going to solve the problem the simple answer is less games and not that proposal from the management committee that would put club's out the game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-german exile Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Dont even need to outright scrap the sectional either, just make it an outright elimination cup and cut down on number of meaningless matches. Making it an outright elimination saves one match day. The majority of clubs wanted to keep the sectional as the "meaningless matches" are all (relatively) local derbies and it's doubtful it would get passed. Personally I would rather see the league start immediately, and have a straight knockout cup at the end of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 A sectional league cup at the end of the season would already solve a lot of issues. With the Junior Cup, scrapping replays wouldn't be a bad idea imo. Failing that, maybe stop scheduling dates between December - February. One problem is that when games get postponed in that period and rescheduled week after week it knocks the league back quite a bit. Only having rounds scheduled until November and from March would at least lessen the impact of the Junior Cup on league fixtures. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 A sectional league cup at the end of the season would already solve a lot of issues. With the Junior Cup, scrapping replays wouldn't be a bad idea imo. Failing that, maybe stop scheduling dates between December - February. One problem is that when games get postponed in that period and rescheduled week after week it knocks the league back quite a bit. Only having rounds scheduled until November and from March would at least lessen the impact of the Junior Cup on league fixtures.As would assigned 'cup'/catch up weekends. Gives clubs far better chance of remaining on schedule as they are kept active on league games until the next available assigned date. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkcircus Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 17/04/2019 at 10:03, Marten said: A sectional league cup at the end of the season would already solve a lot of issues. With the Junior Cup, scrapping replays wouldn't be a bad idea imo. Failing that, maybe stop scheduling dates between December - February. One problem is that when games get postponed in that period and rescheduled week after week it knocks the league back quite a bit. Only having rounds scheduled until November and from March would at least lessen the impact of the Junior Cup on league fixtures. How many Cup games were rescheduled this season between Nov and Mar? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennie Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 8 hours ago, parkcircus said: How many Cup games were rescheduled this season between Nov and Mar? Seven games were postponed on 16th March in the Ardagh Group West of Scotland Cup along with a complete league card. Games were played the following Saturday. In the Macron Scottish Junior Cup there was 2 postponements on 24th Nov, 2 more on 1st Dec, another 2 on 26th Jan, and 4 on 2nd Feb. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennie Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Kennie said: Seven games were postponed on 16th March in the Ardagh Group West of Scotland Cup along with a complete league card. Games were played the following Saturday. In the Macron Scottish Junior Cup there was 2 postponements on 24th Nov, 2 more on 1st Dec, another 2 on 26th Jan, and 4 on 2nd Feb. There was 11 replays in the Macron Scottish Junior Cup during that same period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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