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First  whose due  who at home and home games entitled

Team

Homes Due

Teams Due at home

Dundee (DUN)

2

Ham, Liv, St J, St M

Hamilton (HAM)

3

Liv, Mot

Livingston (LIV)

2

Mot, St M

Motherwell (Mot)

3

Dun, ST M

St Johnstone (St J)

3

Ham, Liv, Mot

St Mirren (St M)

2

Ham, StJ

Fixture list

Matchday 1

Hamilton v St Mirren

Livingston v St Johnstone

Motherwell v Dundee

Matchday 2

Dundee v St Mirren

Hamilton v Livingston

St Johnstone v Motherwell

Matchday 3

Livingston v Dundee

Motherwell v St Mirren

St Johnstone v Hamilton

Matchday 4

Hamilton v Motherwell

Livingston v St Mirren

St Johnstone V Dundee

Matchday 5

Dundee v Hamilton

Motherwell v Livingston

St Mirren v St Johnstone

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5 minutes ago, bigphil2388 said:

First  whose due  who at home and home games entitled

Team

Homes Due

Teams Due at home

Dundee (DUN)

2

Ham, Liv, St J, St M

Hamilton (HAM)

3

Liv, Mot

Livingston (LIV)

2

Mot, St M

Motherwell (Mot)

3

Dun, ST M

St Johnstone (St J)

3

Ham, Liv, Mot

St Mirren (St M)

2

Ham, StJ

Fixture list

Matchday 1

Hamilton v St Mirren

Livingston v St Johnstone

Motherwell v Dundee

Matchday 2

Dundee v St Mirren

Hamilton v Livingston

St Johnstone v Motherwell

Matchday 3

Livingston v Dundee

Motherwell v St Mirren

St Johnstone v Hamilton

Matchday 4

Hamilton v Motherwell

Livingston v St Mirren

St Johnstone V Dundee

Matchday 5

Dundee v Hamilton

Motherwell v Livingston

St Mirren v St Johnstone

Are we only getting one home game after the split? Who are they putting in charge of scheduling, Andrew Dallas?

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The bottom 6 has the same 6 teams as last season, except St Mirren and Livingston replace Ross County and Partick Thistle. That means the fixture list should have written itself. 

But I think I'm right in saying that they ripped-up the normal procedure to "rebalance" the Celtic and "Rangers" fixtures, i.e. so that every team had two home games against Celtic/one against "Rangers", or vice versa.

I guess only the SPFL could engineer a way of screwing up the post-split fixture list in the one season when it actually should have been perfect. 

 

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Apologies 

First  whose due  who at home and home games entitled

Team

Homes Due

Teams Due at home

Dundee (DUN)

2

Ham, Liv, St J, St M

Hamilton (HAM)

3

Liv, Mot

Livingston (LIV)

2

Mot, St M

Motherwell (Mot)

3

Dun, ST M

St Johnstone (St J)

3

Ham, Liv, Mot

St Mirren (St M)

2

Ham, StJ

Fixture list

Matchday 1

Motherwell v Dundee

St Johnstone v Livingston 

St Mirren v hamilton

Matchday 2

Dundee v St Mirren

Hamilton v Livingston

St Johnstone v Motherwell

Matchday 3

Hamilton v St Johnstone 

Livingston v Dundee

Motherwell v St Mirren

Matchday 4

Hamilton v Motherwell

Livingston v St Mirren

St Johnstone V Dundee

Matchday 5

Dundee v Hamilton

Motherwell v Livingston

St Mirren v St Johnstone

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17 minutes ago, bigphil2388 said:

Yeah basically they started from scratch after complaints after last year with rangers due all 5 teams away after the split 

But then even starting from scratch could have given the "correct" "Old Firm" home/away split (which I think was the bigger issue after Partick Thistle complained abut only two pre-split home games), while still keeping the "seeding" from last season. You basically start with the projected post-split fixtures, then build the first 33 games around those. 

Fundamentally, the process shouldn't have been any different to the first ever 12-team SPL fixture list.  That will have been designed to give teams the "correct" Celtic and Rangers (RIP) split, while also taking into account projected finishing positions based on the previous season.

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Is it too much to ask for that the SPFL have already got two set of fixtures prepared - one if Hibs are in 6th and one if 'Well somehow pull it out of the fire, so that we can get our preparations for our inevitable relegation sorted asap???

 

(I've a feeling I know what the answer will be...)

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28 minutes ago, Spikethedee said:

Is it too much to ask for that the SPFL have already got two set of fixtures prepared - one if Hibs are in 6th and one if 'Well somehow pull it out of the fire, so that we can get our preparations for our inevitable relegation sorted asap???

(I've a feeling I know what the answer will be...)

It's more complex than that. If Celtic haven't won the league by the time the split happens, Police Scotland will demand that the SFA schedule the likeliest winning game at Pittodrie at 10am on a Tuesday morning to minimise the risk that 40,000 intoxicated Rangers fans might witness it and be driven to uncontrollable sectarian bloodlust in the streets, while the TV companies reiterate their desire to have the league decider played at Ibrox at peak viewing time on Saturday night, with the rules altered so there's a chance of replaying the match if the game ends in a draw. Then there's the Brexit-style negotiation phase, where they hash out a complete failure to attain a compromise of these irreconcilable demands within the time allotted, and the SFA just goes back to their original proposed fixture list by default.

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3 hours ago, bigphil2388 said:

Apologies 

First  whose due  who at home and home games entitled

Team

Homes Due

Teams Due at home

Dundee (DUN)

2

Ham, Liv, St J, St M

Hamilton (HAM)

3

Liv, Mot

Livingston (LIV)

2

Mot, St M

Motherwell (Mot)

3

Dun, ST M

St Johnstone (St J)

3

Ham, Liv, Mot

St Mirren (St M)

2

Ham, StJ

Fixture list

Matchday 1

Motherwell v Dundee

St Johnstone v Livingston 

St Mirren v hamilton

Matchday 2

Dundee v St Mirren

Hamilton v Livingston

St Johnstone v Motherwell

Matchday 3

Hamilton v St Johnstone 

Livingston v Dundee

Motherwell v St Mirren

Matchday 4

Hamilton v Motherwell

Livingston v St Mirren

St Johnstone V Dundee

Matchday 5

Dundee v Hamilton

Motherwell v Livingston

St Mirren v St Johnstone

Greened in error ! - No one is going to play H, A, A, A H (or A, H, H, H, A) I suspect

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From what I've worked out, the most efficient way (minimal number of fixture changes) to ensure every team has an equal home/away split is to have the following fixtures for a third time:

 

Hamilton v Dundee

 

Livingston v Dundee

Motherwell v Livingston

OR

St Johnstone v Dundee

Motherwell v St Johnstone

 

However, in the past the SPFL has managed to come up with more convoluted solutions, so it wouldn't surprise me if this isn't the case.

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2 minutes ago, Bushel o' Bricks said:

From what I've worked out, the most efficient way (minimal number of fixture changes) to ensure every team has an equal home/away split is to have the following fixtures for a third time:

 

Hamilton v Dundee

 

Livingston v Dundee

Motherwell v Livingston

OR

St Johnstone v Dundee

Motherwell v St Johnstone

 

However, in the past the SPFL has managed to come up with more convoluted solutions, so it wouldn't surprise me if this isn't the case.

Dundee will need to play at least two sides away for a third time, as they are only due two home games after the split.

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3 minutes ago, Hendo said:

Dundee will need to play at least two sides away for a third time, as they are only due two home games after the split.

Yep - the scenario outlined gives them an extra away game at Hamilton and one of Livingston/St Johnstone.

1 minute ago, Hendo said:

My prediction is Dundee will have trips to Livi and Perth, as that means the three teams down the bottom will play each other home and away twice each.

Hamilton still need an extra home game, so the most efficient solution would be to send Dundee to them for a third time. Of course, they may want to avoid this to ensure the three teams in the relegation picture play each other home and away twice, in which St Johnstone would go to Hamilton for a third time instead.

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14 hours ago, Bushel o' Bricks said:

Hamilton still need an extra home game, so the most efficient solution would be to send Dundee to them for a third time. Of course, they may want to avoid this to ensure the three teams in the relegation picture play each other home and away twice

They've never bothered with that before.  Plenty of examples of teams fighting each other for relegation ending up with 3H 1A, or the other way about - Accies going to Inverness three times a couple of years ago, for example. 

But hey, as long as Rangers & Celtic get the right fixtures, who cares about anything else eh ?

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BOTTOM-SIX FIXTURES

Saturday 20 April, 2019
Hamilton Academical v Motherwell, kick-off 3.00pm
Livingston v St Mirren, kick-off 3.00pm
St Johnstone v Dundee, kick-off 3.00pm

Saturday 27 April, 2019
Hamilton Academical v Livingston, kick-off 3.00pm
Motherwell v Dundee, kick-off 3.00pm
St Mirren v St Johnstone, kick-off 3.00pm

Saturday 4 May, 2019
Dundee v Hamilton Academical, kick-off 3.00pm
Motherwell v St Mirren, kick-off 3.00pm
St Johnstone v Livingston, kick-off 3.00pm

Saturday 11 May, 2019
Livingston v Dundee, kick-off 3.00pm
St Johnstone v Motherwell, kick-off 3.00pm

Monday 13 May, 2019
St Mirren v Hamilton Academical – Live on BT Sport, kick-off 7.45pm

Saturday 18 May, 2019
Dundee v St Mirren – Live on BT Sport, kick-off 12.30pm
Hamilton Academical v St Johnstone, kick-off 12.30pm
Motherwell v Livingston, kick-off 12.30pm

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If Hamilton are safe, and we dont even have position to play for, by the final game, that crowd could be hilariously low.

Disappointed not to have a chance to officially relegate Dundee tbh.

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