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2 minutes ago, Rjc-1988 said:

Inevitably this league throws up totally unexpected results when you least expect it. If ever we needed a big win that was it today. Although other results went against us Morton are at least dragged back into the mire.

Our goal led a charmed life at times and Leighfield always seemed to be in the right place. Hopefully, he will take a lot of confidence from this.

We started the game really well and our high pressing was really effective early on. Sadly, we fell back and the last 20 mins seemed to last an eternity. I agree that Doyle and Maguire were very solid and the link up play that led to our goals was first class.
 

Yep agreed although I think we were to an extent pushed back and Todd looked to be running on empty which is unsurprising given his time out. He makes such a difference to the team with his calm play. Also thought Stirling really grafted for the team today again, Something he tended not to necessarily do when he first came to the club. Credit to him and Naysmith  for that. 

As you say Doyle and Maguire were excellent.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

From our end it looked like you had a good number of chances 2nd half. Also although Leighfield made that double save first half the striker just has to score.

That said we should really have made it 3-0 when Dykes was through. Mind you he scores so rarely that expecting him to score twice is somewhat greedy.

It just wasn’t our day.  I think the highlights will show that.

 

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Today showed problems we have had all season and shall continue to have for the remainder. Big fan of Safranko but he doesn't get enough goals, Clark offers very little at times playing as the 10 but give him a chance in the box and he can get the goals to take us up the league. We finished the game with 2 up top, Pawlett in behind and McMullan causing problems wide, this is how we should be starting games by showing some real attacking intent but sadly under Neilson that just isn't going to happen. 

 

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2 hours ago, palmy_cammy said:

Very unexpected, but hugely important win with Partick and Alloa winning.

It’s almost as if we are a better team with Todd and without Martin, Brownlie and Fordyce.

Tbf to the manager, the injuries to Todd and Low have exposed how small our squad is. Maguire’s suspension and Fordyce’s injury and Brownlie being absent until February hasn’t helped stability at the back. Have to say that I agree with those who say that Doyle’s best position for us has been as a CB. He was immense at the start of the season and sounds like he put in a great shift today.  Well done team!

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14 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said:

Pinning the blame on the manager, changing the team following a very good performance at East End. Also playing Clark in midfield is brainless, as is thinking Stanton is going to come good there.

 

Add in playing McMullan and expecting him to do anything other than lose the ball consistently, not being able to beat the first man with a cross or manage to kick the ball harder than a toddler could should be a sackable offence. 

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4 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said:

 

Add in playing McMullan and expecting him to do anything other than lose the ball consistently, not being able to beat the first man with a cross or manage to kick the ball harder than a toddler could should be a sackable offence. 

Aye: having said that, McMullan actually did play an inviting ball a couple of times which should have led to a goal.

 

But several of these guys would never be good enough for a higher league.

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17 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said:

 

Add in playing McMullan and expecting him to do anything other than lose the ball consistently, not being able to beat the first man with a cross or manage to kick the ball harder than a toddler could should be a sackable offence. 

Which United player was better than McMullan today?

 

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2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

We have played worse than that and won.

Totally squandered our chances.

 

Agreed.

I clapped each player off (was in the minority) as they trudged to the tunnel.

Thought we were actually decent in spells today, and there wasn’t a lack of effort or fight imo, and we created more than enough chances to win the game comfortably.

As has been a major flaw for us this season, we did not take these chances,  and I think that todays game is systematic of our entire season, given the result in Alloa.

How many fucking chances do we need to win a game/this league? Alloa have done their level best to royally f**k our season this year, but did their bit to help us out today. Yet again, we didn’t profit when the opportunity presented itself.

Utterly gutted, but think on another day, with a bit more luck, and a keeper not on his game,  things could have been very different.

All is not yet lost and we will still be right in the mix whe we play (a hopefully knackered ) County on Friday.

A few more points. We have come to the end of 4 games in 10 days and taken 9 points out of12, which is decent, but possibly a bit of fatigue may have set in, and necessary squad rotation may have resulted in not the strongest team being able to start today (Pawlett).

For all that Mcmullan has taken a bit of criticism here, I though he was excellent today, and ran solidly for 90 minutes, and got enough balls into the box that the strikers could have made more of. I think criticising him too much is a bit harsh.

Lastly...

Bollocks.:unsure: 

ETA - Granny got his point in about Mcmullan as I was typing this ^^^

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20 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Which United player was better than McMullan today?

 

 

I dont think anyone had a particularly great game today. So in that case id ask who was worse?

Id have said Robson was good in the first half and parts of the second.

Pawlett was much better than him in the short time he was on.

Butcher did ok too.

Seaman got more crosses in than McMullan.

McMullan hit the first man almost every time with his crosses.

Imo, McMullan is the new Derek Lilley with fans. He is consistently utter shite, runs about and works hard but rarely delivers anything. But because he runs about then people ignore the glaring weaknesses in his game. 

He also managed to give away a stupid penalty which was nice.

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Butcher is great as a destroyer but he gives away possession so often its unreal. Mcmullan looks the part but cant beat a man, cross or shoot. Stanton was woeful today, how he started before Harkes is a fuckin mystery. Seaman is getting gradually worse but im not sure if thats the pressure on the young lad or the fact hes being dragged down to our level. Up front, its got to the stage that id rather start Clark than Safranko. Clarks link up play is superior, his finishing is superior and hes become one of our most important players.

Today was vintage United though. See your nearest rivals lose to a team at the bottom of the table and completely fluff your lines in a more than winnable home game against a team thats struggled for weeks...

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4 minutes ago, Twinkle said:

Butcher is great as a destroyer but he gives away possession so often its unreal. Mcmullan looks the part but cant beat a man, cross or shoot. Stanton was woeful today, how he started before Harkes is a fuckin mystery. Seaman is getting gradually worse but im not sure if thats the pressure on the young lad or the fact hes being dragged down to our level. Up front, its got to the stage that id rather start Clark than Safranko. Clarks link up play is superior, his finishing is superior and hes become one of our most important players.

Today was vintage United though. See your nearest rivals lose to a team at the bottom of the table and completely fluff your lines in a more than winnable home game against a team thats struggled for weeks...

It shouldn’t be Clark v Safranko.  It should be both, as a two.  They would feed off each other; the existing formation doesn’t get the best out of either of them.

 

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3 minutes ago, Twinkle said:

Butcher is great as a destroyer but he gives away possession so often its unreal. Mcmullan looks the part but cant beat a man, cross or shoot. Stanton was woeful today, how he started before Harkes is a fuckin mystery. Seaman is getting gradually worse but im not sure if thats the pressure on the young lad or the fact hes being dragged down to our level. Up front, its got to the stage that id rather start Clark than Safranko. Clarks link up play is superior, his finishing is superior and hes become one of our most important players.

Today was vintage United though. See your nearest rivals lose to a team at the bottom of the table and completely fluff your lines in a more than winnable home game against a team thats struggled for weeks...

Fully agree. However ive not seen anything in Seaman to suggest hes ever been above our level anyway.

To not play Pawlett from the start today was a bad mistake from Neilson. Unless he was injured or unfit.

In defence of Stanton, he plays better further forward. To start him as a more defensive player is not fair on him. He was Tam Kite though.

Also if we played Clark within 10 yards of Safranko and, Hell, even make sure Clark made some runs in behind Safranko im sure we'd maybe score 2 goals in the same game! 

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It shouldn’t be Clark v Safranko.  It should be both, as a two.  They would feed off each other; the existing formation doesn’t get the best out of either of them.
 
I dont disagree however its been made clear that we play one up top so my choice would be Clark. There were times today they linked up brilliantly, clipped balls into Pavs chest and Clark run off him but things like that are too scarce. Neither is blessed with any real pace which is a major burden as well, hence the reason Mcmullan started up front last week against County with Clark in behind
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2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

It shouldn’t be Clark v Safranko.  It should be both, as a two.  They would feed off each other; the existing formation doesn’t get the best out of either of them.

 

This.

As a fan of another team it's bizarre  that both don't start in a formation to maximise their effectiveness

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, skinny arab said:

Today showed problems we have had all season and shall continue to have for the remainder. Big fan of Safranko but he doesn't get enough goals, Clark offers very little at times playing as the 10 but give him a chance in the box and he can get the goals to take us up the league. We finished the game with 2 up top, Pawlett in behind and McMullan causing problems wide, this is how we should be starting games by showing some real attacking intent but sadly under Neilson that just isn't going to happen. 

 

Agree with most of that apart from the part about McMullan. He doesn’t cause any problems for opposition teams at all, in about two years I can count the number of times he’s got a cross into a threatening position on one hand. 99 times out of 100 it’s stopped by the first man. 

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4 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Which United player was better than McMullan today?

 

You could make a case for literally every other player we had on the park today being better, his end product is totally non existent. 

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