Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, tumbleweed said: I've asked twice on this thread for people to explain how they want the police to police them at the football, but other than a request that they deal with the real problem rather than suspecting everyone of being a thug, there have been precisely no suggestions. Unfortunately some fans are the real problem - no-one else is throwing things or jumping over the hoardings to have a go at players like we saw tonight - and while its easy to point and throw stones, literally and figuratively, its not so easy to suggest an alternative. I totally understand and accept that the police could do their job better, as I am sure employees of every organisation could, but there needs to be a reasonable alternative before change takes place and if fans organisations such as FAC won't sit down and give their point of view, then it can't be a surprise to them that they are not taken seriously by the authorities. I've spoken to Jeanette Findlay and think she and her organisation have something to add which could benefit fans, but sadly she is jumping up and down outside the window shouting obscenities at those inside, when she could have a seat at the table and influence change from the table. I read her being quoted as saying that Police Scotland "view fans as criminals and potential sources of disorder and that’s a problem for us on an ongoing basis" and she's at least partially right, as I said above. What people want is a real independent report into policing. Not drafting up some other police officer to give the illusion of independence. FAC and others are pretty clear on that point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumbleweed Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 11 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: You're being an absolute fantasist here, mate. McCabe's the name. Policing's the game. If you try and make at least some form of sense it would be easier for people to understand what you are trying to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumbleweed Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 10 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: What people want is a real independent report into policing. Not drafting up some other police officer to give the illusion of independence. FAC and others are pretty clear on that point. A real independent report into policing because you can't be bothered reading the report that was produced and instead just complain about it ? Who would you like to conduct a review of policing football games - Jeanette Findlay because she would fit the narrative into your way of thinking? What other organisation regularly has responsibility for the crowds at sporting or other events? FAC? Obviously police match commanders have the most experience of this and should be able to identify issues and make recommendations about how these could be addressed. Which the reports author actually did. So what else did you expect him to say? I note you haven't suggested how the police go about things, just that what they do should be reviewed by someone, anyone. If there is such a review and you don't like what it says - obviously you would need to actually read it for yourself - what then? Ask for another one? Like many contributors to this thread, just keep complaining and blame the police and stewards for everything, its clearly too difficult to do anything else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Jim McLean's Ghost hasn't read the report? Think it's pretty obvious all through this thread, that they have. Which is ironic given your demands for reading something before wading in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumbleweed Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 See what happens when you just batter out a response without reading things properly ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Snafu said: At todays match with Aberdeen the latest in the series of banners from Celtic fans who make themselves perfectly clear. I don't think anyone can argue with the "manipulative media" banner. Having said that, most of the outspoken cretins shouldn't really be described as "media" as that would somehow assume that they had journalistic knowledge and qualifications, when the reality is that most of them are failed ex footballers who get handed a job and given a platform to spout their drivel............. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Snafu said: At todays match with Aberdeen the latest in the series of banners from Celtic fans who make themselves perfectly clear. What are they complaining about now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 It will be very interesting to see the "media" reaction to the Jack Grealish incident where the fan has run on and just decked him and then given half a dozen Nazi salutes as he's been taken away !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, bennett said: What are they complaining about now? The absence of alliteration in most football banners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: The absence of alliteration in most football banners. No one likes a show off monks... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, bennett said: No one likes a show off monks... Christ Bennett, surely that doesn't constitute showing off in your world, does it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Christ Bennett, surely that doesn't constitute showing off in your world, does it? A terrifying insight into his mind if so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 17 hours ago, Snafu said: At todays match with Aberdeen the latest in the series of banners from Celtic fans who make themselves perfectly clear. Are they protesting about something specific or is this just adolescent peoples’ poet shite? The “scum out football*” banner at least shows that they have mastered irony. *possibly “soum out oe evitball” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Are they protesting about something specific or is this just adolescent peoples’ poet shite? The “scum out football*” banner at least shows that they have mastered irony. *possibly “soum out oe evitball” It’s a shit font as well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: It’s a shit font as well They are indeed a font of shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Are they protesting about something specific or is this just adolescent peoples’ poet shite? The “scum out football*” banner at least shows that they have mastered irony. *possibly “soum out oe evitball” Scumception. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbrucerick Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 18 hours ago, Snafu said: At todays match with Aberdeen the latest in the series of banners from Celtic fans who make themselves perfectly clear. Looks like the top tier. Is this a breakaway group, disillusioned with the direction the GB is taking? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 To be fair, I'd be quite happy to see the bigot sister's fans getting tear gassed and having volleys of plastic bullets fired into them. Water cannons and soap too please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Arsenal fan just pitch invaded and confronted Chris Smalling, it will be very interesting to see the media and authorities reaction to the two English incidents today in relation to their reaction over the incidents in Scotland............... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbrucerick Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Snafu said: The Green Brigade Popular Front or The Popular Brigade of Green People's Front? Has to be done! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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