House Bartender Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 12 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Telfer nae doot on the phone to report the rightful winner for travelling on a train without a mask. He'll be out of Perth Prison by the next series hopefully. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I caught up on it and just had to check the prediction League-so well done to Shaughan for an exciting last minute winner. The American guy having a go at various pronunciations of Airdrie (onians) was amusing. It's said to be a Gaelic word derived word which made me wonder how many other League sides have such names? (Inverness?) Good show again and maybe they should be invited on to Sportscene for the Euros. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 It's said to be a Gaelic word derived word which made me wonder how many other League sides have such names? (Inverness?) A fair few, no? Montrose, Dumbarton, Edinburgh, Stranraer, Brechin et cetera. The rest are Cumbric, Pictish, English or unknown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: A fair few, no? Montrose, Dumbarton, Edinburgh, Stranraer, Brechin et cetera. The rest are Cumbric, Pictish, English or unknown. Thanks for the input to the debate. I can see the Dumbarton origins but never thought of the others shown. Is "burgh" a Gaelic word? I was unsure if Gaelic had been part of the Stewartry etc so a wee bit of research will now be needed. Cheers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I can now see Edinburgh as "Dun Edin" so this could be an interesting challenge. My maternal grandfather grew up in Stranraer( from Ulster birth) but I think Gaelic had long gone by then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_K_97 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 51 minutes ago, Chapelhall chap said: I caught up on it and just had to check the prediction League-so well done to Shaughan for an exciting last minute winner. The American guy having a go at various pronunciations of Airdrie (onians) was amusing. It's said to be a Gaelic word derived word which made me wonder how many other League sides have such names? (Inverness?) Good show again and maybe they should be invited on to Sportscene for the Euros. I know Kilmarnock comes from Cille Mearnaigh, and translates as place of or church of St. Marnock. Anywhere that has "Kil" at the start of the word comes from a church that someone ancient set up and can date back to Gaelic times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Thanks for the input to the debate. I can see the Dumbarton origins but never thought of the others shown. Is "burgh" a Gaelic word? I was unsure if Gaelic had been part of the Stewartry etc so a wee bit of research will now be needed. Cheers.A few of the names are combinations of elements from different languages (e.g. Raith Rovers). Actually, on further investigation the Edin part is Cumbric, which makes sense.Etymology can often be unclear and many we'll never know and can just make best guesses at. The similarity of Celtic languages also means it's often impossible to tell if it's Gaelic, Cumbric or Pictish origin, especially with those languages being quote similar, two of them being dead and the third having changed significantly since many of these toponyms arose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just now, DiegoDiego said: A few of the names are combinations of elements from different languages (e.g. Raith Rovers). Actually, on further investigation the Edin part is Cumbric, which makes sense. Etymology can often be unclear and many we'll never know and can just make best guesses at. The similarity of Celtic languages also means it's often impossible to tell if it's Gaelic, Cumbric or Pictish origin, especially with those languages being quote similar, two of them being dead and the third having changed significantly since many of these toponyms arose. Thanks for the info. The town of Airdrie did once stage the Mod and some of our streets still have those bilingual plaques. Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Andy_K_97 said: I know Kilmarnock comes from Cille Mearnaigh, and translates as place of or church of St. Marnock. Anywhere that has "Kil" at the start of the word comes from a church that someone ancient set up and can date back to Gaelic times. Yes indeed . We had a trip to Loch Melfort a few years ago and there were lots of "Kil" names in Argyll on the road signs. I will need to revisit my History books and hopefully after lockdown , Loch Melfort! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Stranraer means fat nose (Sròn reamhar), that's a goodyin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Chapelhall chap said: I caught up on it and just had to check the prediction League-so well done to Shaughan for an exciting last minute winner. The American guy having a go at various pronunciations of Airdrie (onians) was amusing. It's said to be a Gaelic word derived word which made me wonder how many other League sides have such names? (Inverness?) Good show again and maybe they should be invited on to Sportscene for the Euros. Dunfermline and Dundee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Finally, an interesting topic on this hellsite. There's a difference between a Gaelic name and having a Gaelic form. Edinburgh has a Gaelic form in Dùn Èideann but isn't a Gaelic name. Similarly Dumbarton isn't originally Gaelic it's Brythonic/Cumbric. I wouldn't have thought Brechin was Gaelic. Montrose might be but it's hard to be sure as, as Diego Diego points out, when the Gaels came over they borrowed some of the native words from the Picts and some had a similar proto-Celtic ancestry anyway. Even the Ness element of Inverness is likely to pre-exist any known languages as do many other rivers like Dee, Don and Tay. Dingwall is interesting in being an east coast example of pure Norse. If I was to stick my neck out and commit to SPFL team name elements being pure Gaelic it would be Kilmarnock, Ross, Dunfermline, Greenock, Alloa, Airdrie, Cowdenbeath, Stranraer. Probably Gaelic Montrose, Elgin, Cumbric/Brythonic/Pictish or Proto-Celtic Aberdeen, Dundee, Arbroath, Ayr, Clyde, Dumbarton, Fife, Forfar, Partick Annan, Brechin, Stirling 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I knew you'd be here to set things straight. If you hadn't chimed in by this time tomorrow I was going to sound the bugle!Excellent input, but can you confirm which language spawned Sevco? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 27/03/2021 at 16:19, ArabAuslander said: You've got to remember they are quite a small production company, so they might have other projects to work on. I would personally love for A View from the European Terrace in June though. It’s not really the type of show to cover the Euros. More fitting would be having a show about the Deeside Summer League at Kinker and Torphins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Yas 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Haha, tremendous! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) Craig Brown has been excellent with story telling in the supporters clubs night. Hopefully it is same tonight. Edited April 2, 2021 by betting competition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superandy_07 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 A View From The Euros?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Unsure if this has been posted elsewhere, but we're raising money for kids to get kitted out in Scotland shirts ahead of the Euros. If you can donate, please do, if you can share videos of you attempting keepie-uppies like some of the internationalists who have already, or some of the show members who have theirs incoming... even better. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcernedReferee Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Been a cracking series so far for the lads, part of the regular Scottish football diet for me now, hope the show goes out for the series with a belter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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