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EOSL website:

A draw has been made to determine home advantage and the order of ties within the round robin for the three Conference winners. This resulted in the following fixtures
 

Saturday 27th April:
Winner A v Winner C

Tuesday 30th April or Wednesday 1st May:
Winner B v Winner A

Saturday 4th May:
Winner C v Winner B



This of course decides the overall champion for 2018-19, the league Scottish Cup slot and (potentially) promotion to the Lowland League. Accordingly: as it stands it would be Penicuik v Broxburn to open, then Bonnyrigg v Penicuik in midweek, and Broxburn v Bonnyrigg to close.


Conference A seems 2-way fight between Penicuik and Hill of Beath, who trail them by 5pts but have 1 game-in-hand. Penicuik's biggest challenges look to be hosting Dunbar, midweek trip to Coldstream and then hosting Musselburgh on the last day. Hill of Beath have to play Newtongrange twice and finish away to Easthouses.

Bonnyrigg are dominating Conference B and could have it wrapped-up in just a few weeks - their biggest banana skins are a trip to Dundonald in their next game, hosting LTHV and then Bo'ness in their penultimate match.

Conference C is led by Broxburn, but games-in-hand can close Linlithgow to within 2pts and Jeanfield to 3pts. Those sides have to meet twice - Linlithgow also meet St Andrews twice, Jeanfield host the university townsmen and visit Camelon, and Broxburn must visit St Andrews.


I'll keep this thread updated as the conference run-ins reach their fever pitch.

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2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

EOSL website:
 



This of course decides the overall champion for 2018-19, the league Scottish Cup slot and (potentially) promotion to the Lowland League. Accordingly: as it stands it would be Penicuik v Broxburn to open, then Bonnyrigg v Penicuik in midweek, and Broxburn v Bonnyrigg to close.


Conference A seems 2-way fight between Penicuik and Hill of Beath, who trail them by 5pts but have 1 game-in-hand. Penicuik's biggest challenges look to be hosting Dunbar, midweek trip to Coldstream and then hosting Musselburgh on the last day. Hill of Beath have to play Newtongrange twice and finish away to Easthouses.

Bonnyrigg are dominating Conference B and could have it wrapped-up in just a few weeks - their biggest banana skins are a trip to Dundonald in their next game, hosting LTHV and then Bo'ness in their penultimate match.

Conference C is led by Broxburn, but games-in-hand can close Linlithgow to within 2pts and Jeanfield to 3pts. Those sides have to meet twice - Linlithgow also meet St Andrews twice, Jeanfield host the university townsmen and visit Camelon, and Broxburn must visit St Andrews.


I'll keep this thread updated as the conference run-ins reach their fever pitch.

WE got to Jeanfield not them to us

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Penicuik need 14pts from their last 6 games to win Conference A, or fewer if Hill of Beath drop points.

Bonnyrigg need 1pt from their last 4 games in B.

Broxburn may need maximum from 4 in C, if Linlithgow keep on winning behind them.

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6 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

Is there a trophy for the 3 conferences or just one for winning the play off  ?

There's 3 trophies. @HibeeJibee mentioned previously what they were. Think one of them is having the old EoS First Division trophy repurposed for it.

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On another thread it was mentioned that the final tie-breaker for the play-off was performance in each conference - for example if all teams were on the same points and every game ended in a 1-1 draw. Assuming all three conference leaders win their remaining games, it would be Bonnyrigg (70 pts, ahead of Penicuik 67 and Broxburn 66) who would win that tie-breaker and thus the league.

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6 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

On another thread it was mentioned that the final tie-breaker for the play-off was performance in each conference - for example if all teams were on the same points and every game ended in a 1-1 draw. Assuming all three conference leaders win their remaining games, it would be Bonnyrigg (70 pts, ahead of Penicuik 67 and Broxburn 66) who would win that tie-breaker and thus the league.

Not quite the final tie breaker but near enough

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B. Title Round Robin

1. the champions of the three divisions will contest a title round robin stage

2. the title round robin stage shall be played on a home or away principle, with each club playing one home game and one away game, what club plays which opponent at home and which away being decided randomly; three points for a win and one point for a draw. Where a match is drawn it will be followed by the taking of kicks from the penalty mark as defined by International FA Board rules, the winner receiving a further one point. At the end of the competition the club with the highest points total will be declared champion of the league, and - subject to eligibility - will compete in the pyramid playoff competition for promotion to the Scottish Lowland Football League

3. if two or all three clubs in the title round robin stage are equal on points the deciding criteria will be in turn:
(i) goal difference,
(ii) goals scored,
(iii) the result of the head-to-head match between the clubs concerned,
(iv) goals scored away from home
(v) goals scored away from home in the head-to-head match or matches between the clubs concerned

4. where two or all three clubs are still equal on all of these criteria, the final deciding criteria will be whichever had the best record in their respective divisions, in turn:
(i) points
(ii) goal difference
(iii) goals scored
(iv) goals scored away from home

 

 

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On ‎12‎/‎03‎/‎2019 at 09:48, newcastle broon said:

Is there a trophy for the 3 conferences or just one for winning the play off  ?

Whoever wins the round-robin is the EOS League champion and will receive the league trophy (i.e. the old Premier Division trophy). According to D1 the conference winners will each receive "a commemorative shield or memento".
 

On ‎12‎/‎03‎/‎2019 at 09:56, FairWeatherFan said:

There's 3 trophies. @HibeeJibee mentioned previously what they were. Think one of them is having the old EoS First Division trophy repurposed for it.

I wouldn't think it will be used. Logically the old First Division trophy would likely return next season, for the winner of a title playoff or round-robin among the conference winners at the level beneath the new Premier Division.


 

On ‎12‎/‎03‎/‎2019 at 15:27, Ginaro said:

On another thread it was mentioned that the final tie-breaker for the play-off was performance in each conference - for example if all teams were on the same points and every game ended in a 1-1 draw. Assuming all three conference leaders win their remaining games, it would be Bonnyrigg (70 pts, ahead of Penicuik 67 and Broxburn 66) who would win that tie-breaker and thus the league.

 

On ‎12‎/‎03‎/‎2019 at 15:36, FairWeatherFan said:

Not quite the final tie breaker but near enough

It's very unlikely you will get a dead heat in the round-robin and have to fall back on performance in the conferences. You'd need 2 or all 3 clubs to be tied on points (remembering here that in the round robin a draw goes to a penalty shootout for a bonus point in order to make such a tie less likely)... goal difference.... goals for... head-to-head match score... away goals... away goals in the head-to-head match or matches. That's 6 stages of tie-break.

It would need something along the lines of all 3 games finishing with exactly the same scoreline and each team winning 1 of 2 penalty shoot-outs each.

Mind you... if all 3 had also finished their conferences with exactly the same points, goal difference, goals for and away goals - you'd have a problem!

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Penicuik remain 5pts clear atop Conference A with 6 games left:

Tue 26 Mar      Peebles (H)
Sat 30 Mar       Dunbar (H)
Tue 2 Apr          Hawick (A)
Wed 10 Apr     Coldstream (A)
Sun 14 Apr       Tweedmouth (A)
Sat 20 Apr        Musselburgh (H)



Bonnyrigg need 1pt to seal Conference B with 4 games left:

Fri 29 Mar         Dunipace (A)
Wed 10 Apr      LTHV (H)
Sat 13 Apr         Bo'ness (H)
Sat 20 Apr         Eyemouth (H)



Broxburn extended their lead atop Conference C to 8pts - although Linlithgow have 2 games-in-hand - with 3 games left:

Sat 30 Mar     Craigroyston (A)
Sat 13 Apr      Ormiston (A)
Sat 20 Apr      Stirling Uni EOS (A)



So it'll require a slip-up from these sides to prevent an athletically-themed round-robin of:

Sat 27 Apr     Penicuik Athletic v Broxburn Athletic
midweek        Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic v Penicuik Athletic
Sat 4 May      Broxburn Athletic v Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic

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Who came up with this format.

Why on earth are they not having the teams play each other home and away in a mini league?

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1 hour ago, Winkles said:

Who came up with this format.

Why on earth are they not having the teams play each other home and away in a mini league?

A sensible person?

Because that would take too long and be more likely to have dead rubbers, plus there is the possibility of a home and away play-off against the South of Scotland Champions to come in the two Saturdays after that. The winners would be struggling to complete all their matches and cup games so that the season can finish by 1st June.

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If round-robin was home-n-away on Saturdays the conferences would have needed to finish next weekend.

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16 hours ago, Ginaro said:

A sensible person?

Because that would take too long and be more likely to have dead rubbers, plus there is the possibility of a home and away play-off against the South of Scotland Champions to come in the two Saturdays after that. The winners would be struggling to complete all their matches and cup games so that the season can finish by 1st June.

There’s no possibility of a home and away play off against the South Champions being required as the highest placed licensed Club ( St Cuthbert Wanderers ) are in sixth ,  21 points behind leaders Stranraer ! The top 5 in the SOSFL are all currently unlicensed therefore guaranteeing no East v South play off would be needed 

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There’s no possibility of a home and away play off against the South Champions being required as the highest placed licensed Club ( St Cuthbert Wanderers ) are in sixth ,  21 points behind leaders Stranraer ! The top 5 in the SOSFL are all currently unlicensed therefore guaranteeing no East v South play off would be needed 
They didn't know that at the start of the season when they were making the play-off rules, though.

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3 minutes ago, craigkillie said:
19 minutes ago, AML67 said:
There’s no possibility of a home and away play off against the South Champions being required as the highest placed licensed Club ( St Cuthbert Wanderers ) are in sixth ,  21 points behind leaders Stranraer ! The top 5 in the SOSFL are all currently unlicensed therefore guaranteeing no East v South play off would be needed 

They didn't know that at the start of the season when they were making the play-off rules, though.

No but they could change them easily 

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4 minutes ago, cookieboy said:

No but they could change them easily 

Lowland League tried to change the rules for relegation recently & the SFA told them no.

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Saw this on the nonleaguematters forum. Haven't seen this mentioned on here:

https://nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?post=918151#918151

...Confusuin arose this season with the withdrawal and subsequent expulsion of Selkirk. Initially the Lowland League decided that team 15 would be relegated. Within their own processes this decision was then reversed. However, an appeal was made (by parties unknown) to the SFA who act solely as an arbiter in these matters and thee appeal was upheld. Consequently club 15 will be relegated but may, of course, apply for reinstatement ikn the event kf a vacancy(s) as described above...

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Yeah I'm not believing a misspelt, typo strewn post on a forum if that's the only evidence you have. 

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On 16/03/2019 at 22:14, Ginaro said:

A sensible person?

Because that would take too long and be more likely to have dead rubbers, plus there is the possibility of a home and away play-off against the South of Scotland Champions to come in the two Saturdays after that. The winners would be struggling to complete all their matches and cup games so that the season can finish by 1st June.

Well that's me shot diwn in flames.

Still find it a strange format for such important games.

Teams all around the world play home and away to provide fairness and balance. This format is not fair or balanced.

 

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