FairWeatherFan Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Robert James said: If true, the SFA is leaving it very late to confirm (1) the North Tier 6 leagues , (2) the newly SFA licensed clubs, and (3) the revised format (and draw) for the format of the Preliminary Rounds of the Scottish. Someone on here has mentioned a July SFA AGM date, but that is surely too late, with most leagues starting in mid July. Perhaps there Is an SFA Board Meeting this month, in order to deal with the above issues ? Scottish Cup format is already confirmed. Those getting a licence for 2021-22 already know and the later AGM allowed for extensions that some clubs needed. The NCL already exists and the North & Midlands League are SJFA leagues. The only thing that needs confirmed is the Highland League Playoff. EDIT: On the Scottish Cup front I suppose it could have been guessed at once the SPFL fixture list came out. It appears to be the same as last year with the naming of the proper rounds moved up so there's only one preliminary round. If the format is the same then the entry points are included in the brackets. Preliminary Round: 28th August 2021 (should be Tier 6 & below with no qualifiers) First Round: 18th September 2021 (majority of Highland League & Lowland League enter) Second Round: 23rd October 2021 (SPFL League Two, Brora, Fraserburgh, East Kilbride, and Brechin City enter) Third Round: 27th November 2021 (SPFL Championship & SPFL League One enter) Fourth Round: 22nd January 2022 (SPFL Premiership enter) Fifth Round: 12th February 2022 Quarter finals: 12th March 2022 Semi finals: 16th & 17th April 2022 Final: 21st May 2022 Edited June 23, 2021 by FairWeatherFan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleptomaniac Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Hearing that the SFA board meeting to ratify al successful licence applications is on 30th June. Wouldn't imagine clubs going public on the awards before then.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I am guessing that Bo'ness Athletic will put in an application at some point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: Scottish Cup format is already confirmed. Those getting a licence for 2021-22 already know and the later AGM allowed for extensions that some clubs needed. The NCL already exists and the North & Midlands League are SJFA leagues. The only thing that needs confirmed is the Highland League Playoff. EDIT: On the Scottish Cup front I suppose it could have been guessed at once the SPFL fixture list came out. It appears to be the same as last year with the naming of the proper rounds moved up so there's only one preliminary round. If the format is the same then the entry points are included in the brackets. Preliminary Round: 28th August 2021 (should be Tier 6 & below with no qualifiers) First Round: 18th September 2021 (majority of Highland League & Lowland League enter) Second Round: 23rd October 2021 (SPFL League Two, Brora, Fraserburgh, East Kilbride, and Brechin City enter) Third Round: 27th November 2021 (SPFL Championship & SPFL League One enter) Fourth Round: 22nd January 2022 (SPFL Premiership enter) Fifth Round: 12th February 2022 Quarter finals: 12th March 2022 Semi finals: 16th & 17th April 2022 Final: 21st May 2022 SFA CUP Thank you for the update regarding the Scottish Cup format. Appreciated, as I had missed this. However, as yet I still haven't seen a list of all the newly proposed licensed clubs, especially those from the WoSL. Obviously I have read the posts from the various (EoSL) formal clubs who have been successful (subject to SFA ratification). That is why I referred to the SFA Board meeting (as per my earlier post). TIER 6 Yes I know the North Juniors & the NCL situation. However neither of these 2 leagues have officially announced their Tier 6 status, as they are waiting for formal SFA ratification, apparently to be confirmed at the same time as the 'new' Midland League. The "Non League Scotland" website, is therefore still showing these 3 leagues as "non pyramid". Edited June 23, 2021 by Robert James typo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, kleptomaniac said: Hearing that the SFA board meeting to ratify al successful licence applications is on 30th June. Wouldn't imagine clubs going public on the awards before then.. Thank you for this information about the SFA Board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Robert James said: SFA CUP Thank you for the update regarding the Scottish Cup format. Appreciated, as I had missed this. However, as yet I still haven't seen a list of all the newly proposed licensed clubs, especially those from the WoSL. Obviously I have read the posts from the various (EoSL) formal clubs who have been successful (subject to SFA ratification). That is why I referred to the SFA Board meeting (as per my earlier post). TIER 6 Yes I know the North Juniors & the NCL situation. However neither of these 2 leagues have officially announced their Tier 6 status, as they are waiting for formal SFA ratification, apparently to be confirmed at the same time as the 'new' Midland League. The "Non League Scotland" website, is therefore still showing these 3 leagues as "non pyramid". The guy that runs non league Scotland website is jacking it in RJ ,which is a pity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Whitburn Vale said: The guy that runs non league Scotland website is jacking it in RJ ,which is a pity. He will be missed. Presumably, no one interested in taking it on ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Robert James said: If true, the SFA is leaving it very late to confirm (1) the North Tier 6 leagues 32 minutes ago, Robert James said: TIER 6 Yes I know the North Juniors & the NCL situation. However neither of these 2 leagues have officially announced their Tier 6 status, as they are waiting for formal SFA ratification, apparently to be confirmed at the same time as the 'new' Midland League. Is it actually the case that any formal 'ratification' is required, and not just a byword? Unless they're forming a new senior league (opposed to rebranding East Junior to Midland League) all 3 leagues linking to HL already exist. It's not like 2013 and 2020 when LL and West were newly-established and had to join SFA. Obviously there'll almost certainly be rule amendments etc. to lodge; but the right of any of these leagues to exist is not necessarily at stake. Pyramid operates via bilateral agreements between leagues. Also if HL/candidate playoff or North Caley/North Junior/Midland roundrobin is being run on same lines as East/South/West it wouldn't be under SFA auspices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I thought that all Tier 6 Divisions of "Senior" leagues had Referees appointed by the SFA? If so then ALL Tier 6 leagues would have to be acknowledged in some way by the SFA. Maybe it is less formal than that. There again, in order to be accepted to enter the club licencing process surely clubs have to play in current Tier 6 leagues? Again some sort of acknowledgement seems necessary by the SFA? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Dev said: I thought that all Tier 6 Divisions of "Senior" leagues had Referees appointed by the SFA? If so then ALL Tier 6 leagues would have to be acknowledged in some way by the SFA. Maybe it is less formal than that. There again, in order to be accepted to enter the club licencing process surely clubs have to play in current Tier 6 leagues? Again some sort of acknowledgement seems necessary by the SFA? All SJFA leagues get their referees appointed by the SFA already so nothing will change in that regard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Also if HL/candidate playoff or North Caley/North Junior/Midland roundrobin is being run on same lines as East/South/West it wouldn't be under SFA auspices. The Lowland Pyramid Playoff does fall under the SFA's JPP and has the SFA tied into the rules though. I think that's the only thing that really needs SFA approval for a Highland Pyramid Playoff. Which is clearly going on. Everyone up North are quietly going about their business ahead of the new season. Its just people on here a little paranoid playing out What If scenarios. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 21 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: The Lowland Pyramid Playoff does fall under the SFA's JPP and has the SFA tied into the rules though. I think that's the only thing that really needs SFA approval for a Highland Pyramid Playoff. Which is clearly going on. Everyone up North are quietly going about their business ahead of the new season. Its just people on here a little paranoid playing out What If scenarios. I hope that you are correct, but in my opinion it seems to be 'odd' that there has been no official announcement from any of the 3 leagues, that they will be playing at Tier 6 of the pyramid next season ? In a week's time, it will be 1st July 2021; merely 14 days before the 2021/22 season starts for some leagues. I would also have expected formal confirmation from the Highland League regarding the establishment of the north pyramid, including the promotion & relegation 'system'. The North Caley has had its AGM and its website now confirms Tier 6. The North Region Junior League is apparently holding its' AGM on 27th June, and will presumably do likewise. Is there any official news about the Midland (Junior) League, as yet ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 The ERJFA had their AGM yesterday. The Midland League will start on Saturday 17/7 and has received the green light. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Marten said: The ERJFA had their AGM yesterday. The Midland League will start on Saturday 17/7 and has received the green light. Thank you for your confirmation ? Has it published its structure ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, Robert James said: Thank you for your confirmation ? Has it published its structure ? Structure is one league of 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: Structure is one league of 18 It will be a busy 21/22 season, with league and cup games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 19 if this cup draw is anything to go by: and do you have a source where a single division format is confirmed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Structure is one league of 19. More to be published tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Marten said: Structure is one league of 19. More to be published tomorrow. Any talk this year of a split? Since it was a suggestion for last season. If Midlands are playing 36 games over 38 rounds, the North Super playing 26 and NCL 22 it's quite a difference to organise the HL Play-off. Edited June 25, 2021 by FairWeatherFan Numbers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said: Any talk this year of a split? Since it was a suggestion for last season. If Midlands are playing 38 games over 40 rounds, the North Super playing 26 and NCL 22 it's quite a difference to organise the HL Play-off. On the other hand, we'll start on 17/7 and the NCL only kick off late September. Maybe the plan is to play twice a week until September. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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