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4 minutes ago, grinderbrokeyourhearts said:

I and most Rose fans totally disagree with this decision but you can't give this sneak via the back door chat.

We've been ahead of all this for years and already spent the cash. So if we go up then that's the way it is.

I really fancy the EoS next year but if we go up on application it's testement to the hard work of the committee. Not a council grant in sight.

Anyone who thinks we wouldn't be getting promoted on merit if we'd spend £70k on the playing squad instead of lights is in cloud cookoo land.

The thing is there has been such a carry on with the club 16 scenario I as a ww fan would've accepted relegation on the basis of Cove beating Berwick because technically we would be 2nd bottom now. 

That permutation seems to have long gone then  ? 

Who spends 70k on players  ?

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The thing is there has been such a carry on with the club 16 scenario I as a ww fan would've accepted relegation on the basis of Cove beating Berwick because technically we would be 2nd bottom now. 
That permutation seems to have long gone then  ? 
Who spends 70k on players  ?
I'm pointing out the cost lost in squad investment in paying for floodlights.

Gimme I'd like to qualify on those terms but itd be better someone goes up rather than no one imo.

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33 minutes ago, grinderbrokeyourhearts said:

I really fancy the EoS next year but if we go up on application it's testement to the hard work of the committee. Not a council grant in sight.
 

Because Councils hand out money to clubs like sweeties, no hard work required on the clubs part to get it  :rolleyes:

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3 hours ago, MDM said:

What we really need is a root and branch review of the SFA and the appointment of fresh blood - the appointment of people who genuinely have the good of Scottish football at heart and as a priority.

Erm the SFA just appointed a new chief executive with an extensive background in Scottish football: he's fucking useless though. 

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3 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

Because Councils hand out money to clubs like sweeties, no hard work required on the clubs part to get it  :rolleyes:

Filling out forms is hardly blood sweat and tears.

Grants being obtained not because of football prowess but purely because clubs tick the right boxes in a modern Snowflake Society.  You have to wonder where these clubs would actually be without artificial funding (not self generated) 

Whilst other Clubs spend their own money to enhance their own park - built up through years of toil.  Days like yesterday must make them wonder why bother.  It's hardly a level playing field - and questionable if footballing ability actually matters anymore.

 

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1 minute ago, Auld Heid said:

Filling out forms is hardly blood sweat and tears.

Grants being obtained not because of football prowess but purely because clubs tick the right boxes in a modern Snowflake Society.  You have to wonder where these clubs would actually be without artificial funding (not self generated) 

Whilst other Clubs spend their own money to enhance their own park - built up through years of toil.  Days like yesterday must make them wonder why bother.  It's hardly a level playing field - and questionable if footballing ability actually matters anymore.

 

Damn right , some slope on |New Dundas park

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21 minutes ago, grinderbrokeyourhearts said:

Of course and no disrespect intended but it's even harder to do it alone. As Bonnyrigg are finding out just now.

How would you know though? I know from personal experience trying to persuade Councils and Councillors to help clubs is no easy task and can literally take years with umpteen hoops to jump through, and with no guarantee you'll get anything.

Raising major finance whether you own your ground or lease it is no easy task.  It rips my knitting when it's implied that Councils just hand you money when you need it. Nothing could be further from the truth.

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2 minutes ago, Auld Heid said:

Filling out forms is hardly blood sweat and tears.

Grants being obtained not because of football prowess but purely because clubs tick the right boxes in a modern Snowflake Society.  You have to wonder where these clubs would actually be without artificial funding (not self generated) 

Whilst other Clubs spend their own money to enhance their own park - built up through years of toil.  Days like yesterday must make them wonder why bother.  It's hardly a level playing field - and questionable if footballing ability actually matters anymore.

You just expose your own utter ignorance of the subject.

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How would you know though? I know from personal experience trying to persuade Councils and Councillors to help clubs is no easy task and can literally take years with umpteen hoops to jump through, and with no guarantee you'll get anything.
Raising major finance whether you own your ground or lease it is no easy task.  It rips my knitting when it's implied that Councils just hand you money when you need it. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the raising of £70k then the pecurement process thereafter requires more effort than applying for a grant. We've done both (for the disabled shelter) so maybe someone in the know can help.

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2 minutes ago, grinderbrokeyourhearts said:
5 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
How would you know though? I know from personal experience trying to persuade Councils and Councillors to help clubs is no easy task and can literally take years with umpteen hoops to jump through, and with no guarantee you'll get anything.
Raising major finance whether you own your ground or lease it is no easy task.  It rips my knitting when it's implied that Councils just hand you money when you need it. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the raising of £70k then the pecurement process thereafter requires more effort than applying for a grant. We've done both (for the disabled shelter) so maybe someone in the know can help.

Not every club has the resources to raise £70k for floodlights, very very few in fact.  The snootiness of the comment "not a Council grant in sight" is just a disparaging remark to those clubs who work damn hard to secure funding to improve what they have, whether that be a shelter, toilets, lights, or a whole new ground. 

It all requires hard work and effort, but to some looking down from their lofty perch  it's just ticking a box on a form  :rolleyes:

 

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3 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

Not every club has the resources to raise £70k for floodlights, very very few in fact.  The snootiness of the comment "not a Council grant in sight" is just a disparaging remark to those clubs who work damn hard to secure funding to improve what they have, whether that be a shelter, toilets, lights, or a whole new ground. 

It all requires hard work and effort, but to some looking down from their lofty perch  it's just ticking a box on a form  :rolleyes:

 

Not to mention the tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of pounds said clubs have to raise over future years to maintain and replace. The hard work never stops. 

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Just now, Burnieclub78 said:

Not to mention the tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of pounds said clubs have to raise over future years to maintain and replace. The hard work never stops. 

You filled that form in yet for the £30k we need for a new stand? need the Cooncil to send us the cash by the end of next week so get it sent :whistle

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Just now, grinderbrokeyourhearts said:

That's a fair point well made. As I said it wasn't intended that way.

The point is, it's hard work for all of us keeping clubs going, big or small, and we've then got to try and plan for the SFA chucking another brick at us in the future. Disabled shelter, then floodlights, stand next maybe? more cover? bigger changing rooms?  who knows.

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29 minutes ago, Auld Heid said:

Filling out forms is hardly blood sweat and tears.

Grants being obtained not because of football prowess but purely because clubs tick the right boxes in a modern Snowflake Society.  You have to wonder where these clubs would actually be without artificial funding (not self generated) 

Whilst other Clubs spend their own money to enhance their own park - built up through years of toil.  Days like yesterday must make them wonder why bother.  It's hardly a level playing field - and questionable if footballing ability actually matters anymore.

 

It would probably be better for you if you and the other Linlithgow fans started following the new Linlithgow Rose in the Juniors, its clear that you hate being a small fish in a big pond and seek any opportunity to denigreate clubs and leagues looking to improve.

That you use the term snowflake says it all about you and your views.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

You filled that form in yet for the £30k we need for a new stand? need the Cooncil to send us the cash by the end of next week so get it sent :whistle

Fundraising started, may take a while. 

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The 70k thing seems strange to me, what with Linlithgow Rose already licensed and with floodlights. 

Are you trying to say you're still paying off borrowing that money? Otherwise how would you be disadvantaged financially this season on the field?

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The 70k thing seems strange to me, what with Linlithgow Rose already licensed and with floodlights. 
Are you trying to say you're still paying off borrowing that money? Otherwise how would you be disadvantaged financially this season on the field?
We've spent £70k on floodlights. Completely paid off. We could have spent it on players as we were already licensed.

A long term outflow which looks to have been a good call if we go up in the next year or two. If we'd invested that sort of money in the playing squad instead of lights we'd be in Bonnyriggs position.

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