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6 minutes ago, ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds said:

The return of Ian Murray’s dreaded triple sub. This makes it even more important that we get more bodies in.

I was just coming on to say this. If we weren’t winning after 70 minutes you knew a triple sub was coming, all of which were like for like replacements and Dale Carrick was definitely getting taken off. Admittedly it might be a result of having a smaller squad but he seems less keen to use his subs this season, probably because we’re generally winning and it’s a case of maintaining that rather than chucking on guys in the hope they do something.

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19 minutes ago, Mr November said:

I was just coming on to say this. If we weren’t winning after 70 minutes you knew a triple sub was coming, all of which were like for like replacements and Dale Carrick was definitely getting taken off. Admittedly it might be a result of having a smaller squad but he seems less keen to use his subs this season, probably because we’re generally winning and it’s a case of maintaining that rather than chucking on guys in the hope they do something.

Manager was the man that brought the players to the club, 

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43 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said:

 

I also think we need to appreciate that defensive issues are a result of our more attacking style of play. We have lots of the ball and commit players forward, so when we lose it teams can counter attack on us like the first goal last night. That goal should still have been defended better but our style of play will expose us to more of those type of moments.

I've thought all season that the only reason our defence seems better than last year is because we have so much more of the ball than in previous years therefore they don't get tested as much in a game. The problem is when they do get tested it's usually a counter attack and quite a dangerous situation. I think this is why we don't concede too much territory but do give up lots of chances. Whereas in previous seasons we'd sit much deeper, have less of the ball but actually look pretty comfortable most of the time because we'd have 9 players behind the ball at all times.

It's a trade off, we could probably be more secure at the back by not committing players forward, but then we'd have less of the ball and create less. Overall this season we've got the balance right so it's very harsh to criticise. My only criticism is how bad we are from set-pieces, all the above can be explained but losing goals like we did against Falkirk and the 2nd goal last night isn't good enough. We're always going to be at risk of counter attacks this season but set-pieces is the area we can and must improve on. We've been hopeless from crosses all season, Currie is a big part of that but I also think a lack of a dominant centre half partnership is an issue - even more so given Currie's weakness at cross balls.

Maybe give the other keeper a start  see if he could command the box, 

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1 hour ago, AndyDD said:

I'd take Kerr McInroy back, of course, he's a very good player and did very well for us, but I'd see it as a bonus now. We need to try and get another forward in, as hard as that is going to be. We've only got three available as it stands. 

Ditto, any dosh that was earmarked for McInroy needs re-routed for a striker.

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Striker please. Don't see much wrong with the current midfield. Really enjoying how they are playing. Just to mention I thought the pitch at broadwood last night looked really 'sticky' with short passes being caught, slowed. Did clyde do that deliberately knowing how well we move the ball

 

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26 minutes ago, goodwin said:

Striker please. Don't see much wrong with the current midfield. Really enjoying how they are playing. Just to mention I thought the pitch at broadwood last night looked really 'sticky' with short passes being caught, slowed. Did clyde do that deliberately knowing how well we move the ball

 

Commented on that last night as well, thought the ball slowed up very fast.

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Alloa, Falkirk and Clyde - three games where we conceded right after we scored albeit we got away with it in two. The lack of complete and utter composure shown at times is shocking. Just keep the ball, which they do very well, and see the game out, don’t do anything stupid. Just settle back down.

Really hope Fordyce is OK, would be a blow to see Kerr return only to lose him. Also, a more clinical striker would have buried some of those chances we made.

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1 hour ago, goodwin said:

Striker please. Don't see much wrong with the current midfield. Really enjoying how they are playing. Just to mention I thought the pitch at broadwood last night looked really 'sticky' with short passes being caught, slowed. Did clyde do that deliberately knowing how well we move the ball

 

Do we need another striker or just our current lot being more clinical,   unfortunately Sal is out just had an operation and McGill still to come back.  Apart from Goodwillie and the cove boys I would say most other teams are in the same boat, is there any 20 goal strikers available these days,

 

we have been linked to the lad Moffat from Celtic he is a fast, slightly built winger \ inside forward type who would fit into our system,  can we seal the deal though..

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Understand why folk are desperate for a striker and I want one in too, but if it’s McInroy or a striker I’m picking McInroy every time. The boy was a total game changer for us and could score a winner from nothing as seen against Queen’s Park. He’s got technique, energy, physique and confidence in abundance and I think I’d rather have him than even Kyle Turner, and that’s saying something. If we fail to get him in though I would agree it makes sense to redirect that energy towards bringing in a forward.

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16 minutes ago, ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds said:

Understand why folk are desperate for a striker and I want one in too, but if it’s McInroy or a striker I’m picking McInroy every time. The boy was a total game changer for us and could score a winner from nothing as seen against Queen’s Park. He’s got technique, energy, physique and confidence in abundance and I think I’d rather have him than even Kyle Turner, and that’s saying something. If we fail to get him in though I would agree it makes sense to redirect that energy towards bringing in a forward.

I agree. I think the last game against Queen’s Park typified that, a stuffy game where we needed a moment of magic that no one else was capable of to win it. Obviously a top quality striker would be brilliant but there aren’t many of them in the Championship, never mind guys willing to drop down to League One. We do need another option up front, mainly due to Sal and Gabby being injured and both of them bring something different when available, but I’d feel more confident about our chances if McInroy was to return. For all that not converting chances has been a problem, I feel our main issue is that we generally don’t create enough great chances for the possession we have, rather than out forwards missing loads of gilt-edged chances. Having someone capable of breaking down a tight defence as well as popping up with a few goals could be more valuable than another striker. 

Saying that, if he has Hamilton as an option I can see why that might be more appealing to him and at this point I’m not really expecting him back. Hopefully he does decide to come back though, as I’d feel a more confident about promotion if he was in the team.

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11 hours ago, Mr November said:

Saying that, if he has Hamilton as an option I can see why that might be more appealing to him and at this point I’m not really expecting him back. Hopefully he does decide to come back though, as I’d feel a more confident about promotion if he was in the team.

Whilst Hamilton have obviously been much more successful than us for a decade plus, It still rankles me that they are looked on as a better option than us.

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Can't argue with much of what's been said on the keeper front. I thought Currie could have done better for both goals on Tuesday. First one he comes, then stops, and it's just a wee dinked header over the top of him. Not sure what happened for the second...the shot comes from about 35 yards out...I thought he could have went for a cup of tea and a cigarette and still come back to save it. That said, the boy is still young and hopefully improves.

As for the forward situation, it's a strange one for me. Gal can be frustrating at times but he always seems to pop up in the right place at the right time to nick a few goals. I like Smith but sometimes I just wish he'd have that wee bit of skill to beat the last man. A few times of late he's been put through against the last man but doesn't quite have that bit of creativity to side step a defender and get a shot away.

Defensive frailties and result aside, I fair enjoyed that second half on Tuesday. Just need to shore up a bit and we'll be fine.

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14 hours ago, ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds said:

Understand why folk are desperate for a striker and I want one in too, but if it’s McInroy or a striker I’m picking McInroy every time. The boy was a total game changer for us and could score a winner from nothing as seen against Queen’s Park. He’s got technique, energy, physique and confidence in abundance and I think I’d rather have him than even Kyle Turner, and that’s saying something. If we fail to get him in though I would agree it makes sense to redirect that energy towards bringing in a forward.

Cove are top of the league because McCallister & Megginson have 23 goals between them and Megginson has the most assists too. We have Gal with 7!

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14 hours ago, ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds said:

Understand why folk are desperate for a striker and I want one in too, but if it’s McInroy or a striker I’m picking McInroy every time. The boy was a total game changer for us and could score a winner from nothing as seen against Queen’s Park. He’s got technique, energy, physique and confidence in abundance and I think I’d rather have him than even Kyle Turner, and that’s saying something. If we fail to get him in though I would agree it makes sense to redirect that energy towards bringing in a forward.

Ultimately our midfield is without question our strongest area of the park. Guys like Easton, Frizzell, Scott McGill and McCabe are goal scoring midfielders capable of that bit of match-winning magic and of controlling games, opening up teams and dictating tempo.

With Salim sidelined for the long term and Gabby McGill still likely to be away for a few weeks yet, we are running with Gal, Smithy and Allan as forwards. That's it. I don't think having three available forwards, when we start every game with two, is sustainable. You want at least two forward options on the bench, ones who hopefully have different attributes too, so that you can use them as best suits the circumstances of the game if and when you need or want to change things up.

 

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2 hours ago, Kenny_m said:

Cove are top of the league because McCallister & Megginson have 23 goals between them and Megginson has the most assists too. We have Gal with 7!

23 vs 7 isn’t a great comparison when the 23 have been scored by two players and the 7 by one, but I get what you’re saying. They have far more prolific strikers than us. The problem is that proven goalscorers like them tend not to be available in January unless you’re willing to pay a transfer fee, which we won’t. I don’t think as a team we’ve really lacked goals so the problem for me up front isn’t really the quality but the lack of options up top now that we’ve got a couple of injuries. I’m quite sure we’ll be looking to bring a forward in and I hope we do, I just feel that McInroy coming back would be bigger for us than any striker since we know he’s a game changer and since he’s already been here he’d fit right in. Doesn’t look like it will be happening now but I think a player like him or Turner that’s clearly too good for the league is the difference between us pushing Cove all the way or having to settle for the playoffs again, regardless of what position they play.

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Still getting over Tuesday night.

Contrary to reports I didn’t think we played to our usual high standards but difficult to fault players, more than enough effort to win the game just something didnt click imo.

Thought we were average in the 1st half and huffed and puffed in the 2nd. Didn’t think the goal was coming until Easton scored. At this point in my opinion we should’ve cut our cloth sat back and tried to see it out time wasted etc like Clyde had done all night. 

Think their first goal Kerr bombed forward and we ended up with a 3v3 at the back. The instruction should’ve been to see it out.

If you’re going for titles you need a keeper that bails you out at times and Currie seems to be somewhat of an Enigma. Some games you come away thinking he’s made a couple of really good saves but the two goals on Tuesday he should’ve done a lot better, the first caught in no man’s land and the second he had years to get to the original shot from miles out.

I get why people are desperate to sign a striker, however, only cove have scored more in total than us whereas if you look at the defence we’ve conceded more than cove, Queens Park and Montrose so maybe that’s where we should be focusing on. Especially with Dycey going off injured. Any length of time he could be out for would be a disaster.

Barring a Mortonesque Cove collapse it’s difficult to see past them winning it. 3 tough games coming up. Hopefully we can continue to solidify our playoff spot and see where we end up.

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10 minutes ago, ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds said:

23 vs 7 isn’t a great comparison when the 23 have been scored by two players and the 7 by one, but I get what you’re saying. They have far more prolific strikers than us. The problem is that proven goalscorers like them tend not to be available in January unless you’re willing to pay a transfer fee, which we won’t. I don’t think as a team we’ve really lacked goals so the problem for me up front isn’t really the quality but the lack of options up top now that we’ve got a couple of injuries. I’m quite sure we’ll be looking to bring a forward in and I hope we do, I just feel that McInroy coming back would be bigger for us than any striker since we know he’s a game changer and since he’s already been here he’d fit right in. Doesn’t look like it will be happening now but I think a player like him or Turner that’s clearly too good for the league is the difference between us pushing Cove all the way or having to settle for the playoffs again, regardless of what position they play.

I was comparing strikers as next in line for us is Dylan followed by Kerr McInroy.

Every League in Scotland other than the Premier (and i'm sure that will change by the end of the season), the team at the top also has the leagues top scorer. Yes stats can be misleading at times but not when it comes to putting the ball in the pokey.

Agree totally that they are not easy to find and could cost money, but the reason for that is clear.

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