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10 minutes ago, Chapelhall chap said:

Not good at predicting scores as I am, I think it will be Smith and McKay that drop out. Whether we then play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 where does Gal play?  Always fun to get Murray's team lines on way to game.

Be very surprised if he starts Robert's or Gal seems they are first to drop out.  Easier to predict the lotto numbers.  Maybe he will try the 6 4 or possibly a 3 21211 lol.  

Has mr Murray  played a 4 4 2 this season. 

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2 minutes ago, Eric the half a b said:

Be very surprised if he starts Robert's or Gal seems they are first to drop out.  Easier to predict the lotto numbers.  Maybe he will try the 6 4 or possibly a 3 21211 lol.  

Has mr Murray  played a 4 4 2 this season. 

Another point that strikes me... being Airdrie why doesn't he play the diamond midfield system 🤣🤯

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56 minutes ago, Chapelhall chap said:

Not good at predicting scores as I am, I think it will be Smith and McKay that drop out. Whether we then play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 where does Gal play?  Always fun to get Murray's team lines on way to game.

I think it depends if roberts has fallen out of favour.   I think the only change I'd make from the starting line up on Saturday would be mckay out Murray in.  If Roberts doesn't start then maybe try the ryan in behind gal again.  We need to start scoring goals again so playing with a back 4 and 2 deep midfielders isnt creating chances.  

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2 hours ago, Eric the half a b said:

Be very surprised if he starts Robert's or Gal seems they are first to drop out.  Easier to predict the lotto numbers.  Maybe he will try the 6 4 or possibly a 3 21211 lol.  

Has mr Murray  played a 4 4 2 this season. 

He always tinkers around during games and our successful spell was that 4-3-3 or 4-2-1-3 but I think he did start the Clyde game as a 4-4-2  in that terrible first half hour? It the reverted to the other ones at different times. I can't see him doing a strict 4-4-2 but I suspect Ryan might play just behind Gallagher. If Roberts is out of favour then it raises a lot of questions. One of my friends suggested  a back four of McDonald/Crighton/Fordyce/Eckersley with McCann wide left/ Carrick wide right/ and any 2 midfielders, with Ryan and Gallagher up front. I have not a scoobie!

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6 hours ago, Jack Reed said:

Changed the game ,here’s me thinking we got beat ,

Not defending Nat, but you played to a 0-0 draw in the second half. I’d love to understand what happened in the second quarter that made Airdrie such a juggernaut and has once again disappeared.

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7 hours ago, TxRover said:

Not defending Nat, but you played to a 0-0 draw in the second half. I’d love to understand what happened in the second quarter that made Airdrie such a juggernaut and has once again disappeared.

We did pick up points but even when we were winning you could not say we were playing well .

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I think that's going a wee bit too far, I certainly started to at least believe that we would win games and some of our play was good. When the long balls were used they seemed to be effective, and the long throw hadn't been figured out at that stage.

 

In comparison, going back to the Montrose home defeat, we scored after 2 mins or so and I still didn't think we would actually win the game.

 

So for me there was a change.

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17 hours ago, Ballboy said:

I think it depends if roberts has fallen out of favour.   I think the only change I'd make from the starting line up on Saturday would be mckay out Murray in.  If Roberts doesn't start then maybe try the ryan in behind gal again.  We need to start scoring goals again so playing with a back 4 and 2 deep midfielders isnt creating chances.  

Would that be a 4-4-1-1,think we need to keep Ryan and gal upfront but not wide ,need wide men for service ,

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18 minutes ago, Jack Reed said:

Would that be a 4-4-1-1,think we need to keep Ryan and gal upfront but not wide ,need wide men for service ,

I'd go with back 4 McDonald, crighton, fordice, McCann.    Midfield Millar with Murray and Roberts more advanced.  Then Carrick, ryan and Smith.    Just because it didn't work last time gallacher played in the wider role.   I think the work rate Smith puts in keeps him in.  Gal hasn't done much wrong but maybe the manager is as frustrated as the rest of us at all the offside. 

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Offside or not, he's got 11 league goals and 4 assists. After accounting for the 4 penalties that's over half our league goals he's scored or set up. He's also the only forward to have scored in any of our 5 games in 2020.

I'm struggling with the clamour on here for Murray to start too. The midfield balance isn't great but without having seen a single minute of him (is he a 10 or a winger?) he's walking into the team.

McKay also gets a lot of stick. I've defended him on here before and, given I'm not exactly overwhelmed by him myself, I'm reluctant to do it again - but he's the defensive midfielder in a team that generally doesn't lose many goals. 

 

Big decisions for Murray at the weekend though, we're drifting a bit and Dumbarton are the only team with fewer points than us over the last 3 games.

 

ETA: Falkirk and East Fife/Montrose not playing in the league this weekend we could either be 2 points off second or needing snookers to stay in the playoffs - feels like a pivotal game for our season. 

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1 hour ago, Ballboy said:

I'd go with back 4 McDonald, crighton, fordice, McCann.    Midfield Millar with Murray and Roberts more advanced.  Then Carrick, ryan and Smith.    Just because it didn't work last time gallacher played in the wider role.   I think the work rate Smith puts in keeps him in.  Gal hasn't done much wrong but maybe the manager is as frustrated as the rest of us at all the offside. 

McDonald and McCann to give us width ,the new boy Murray a bit of a unknown quantity got to be better than we have been performing though ,Jones will be a danger at corners , free kicks , would like to see Hutts back in starting line up ,

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Goal keeper is a tough one.  Last season hutts was outstanding.   This year not so much but the defending has been better so hes not had much shots to save.  I didn't see him do much wrong to merit being dropped.  Can only think it's as has been said about not catching crosses.  However now goalie gal has played the last couple he wasnt really tested against stranrar and although raith scored he did make one good save and only had a couple of shots from distance after that.   

As for the clamour for the new boy to start  its probably because the other midfielders dont create much.  Roberts plays more advanced but the manager seems to see something he doesn't like.  Millar has probably been the most consistent with ball winning and trying to pass to someone who can play.   Nat has his speed issues and McKay in the last few games has been useless.   My personal preference would be to give barrowman a chance and maybe try to promote our own young players rather than give hibs youth game time.  However now hes here why not give him a chance cant be slower than nat or create less than McKay.  

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36 minutes ago, Jack Reed said:

McDonald and McCann to give us width ,the new boy Murray a bit of a unknown quantity got to be better than we have been performing though ,Jones will be a danger at corners , free kicks , would like to see Hutts back in starting line up ,

Weather reports could be a factor apparently high winds forecast for weekend.

Will be interesting who starts just hope we go out and get at them from the start it's a game we need to win for sure.

 

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Would be open to us trying 352 again with Gal and Ryan up top and Carrick in the number 10 role and MacDonald and McCann providing width. It was chronic earlier in the season but we had an ok run with it and it can't be worse to watch than the recent long ball rubbish.

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1 hour ago, ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds said:

Would be open to us trying 352 again with Gal and Ryan up top and Carrick in the number 10 role and MacDonald and McCann providing width. It was chronic earlier in the season but we had an ok run with it and it can't be worse to watch than the recent long ball rubbish.

Who’s your midfield 2 and back 3 if that’s the case..?

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Who’s your midfield 2 and back 3 if that’s the case..?

I'm not sure. You'd probably bring Kerr back into the defence and stick with Millar and McKay in midfield but I wouldn't be against bringing Roberts, Murray or Wedderburn into midfield or even Eckersley into a back 3. Hadn't really thought of specifics it was just an idea based on trying to fit in Gal, Ryan and Carrick while maintaining a shape we'd already tried

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22 hours ago, ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds said:

Would be open to us trying 352 again with Gal and Ryan up top and Carrick in the number 10 role and MacDonald and McCann providing width. It was chronic earlier in the season but we had an ok run with it and it can't be worse to watch than the recent long ball rubbish.

 

It can. We played it last year and it was dire to watch. We played it this year and it was dire to watch. Don't see any reason to think that trying it again will be any different. Why would the long balls stop because we have 3 at the back?

Our back 4 have proven to be pretty good. The front 3 have shown they can cause problems and create goals if they get half decent service. The problem is the midfield. I have no idea how to fix that, but I'd rather keep the defence and attack that we know can work and try and sort the midfield than totally change the entire team to a system which we have already tried and failed with.

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6 minutes ago, airdrie_3 said:

Murray has fuckin lost it, struggling to win so let’s take off our 2 strikers and bring on Roy n Roberts, 360 mins without a goal absolute shite

On way back freezing worst Dunbarton team I have ever seen no threat at all we will get the conditions we controlled the game. Ffs we took both our strikers of and left Smith on yet again pish poor.

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16 minutes ago, Eric the half a b said:

On way back freezing worst Dunbarton team I have ever seen no threat at all we will get the conditions we controlled the game. Ffs we took both our strikers of and left Smith on yet again pish poor.

Agree, what does the manager watch ,

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