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10 minutes ago, Passionate said:

Should our reserve team not be doing better,  Full time a couple of first teamers  on display or is it down to coaching,   Murray let it slip in the programme on saturday,  that he was the only coach for the full timers which I hear is 27 players,  Sean Crighton has been added  last week after leav ing his morto n gig.   How can one coach train, nurture and improve players when he has so many.   I believe fitzy, Prunty and Low are all part time..   This surely has to be addressed this Hybrid model really is make it up as you go on.

Results of coaching are the performances on the field,

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1 hour ago, Passionate said:

Should our reserve team not be doing better,  Full time a couple of first teamers  on display or is it down to coaching,   Murray let it slip in the programme on saturday,  that he was the only coach for the full timers which I hear is 27 players,  Sean Crighton has been added  last week after leav ing his morto n gig.   How can one coach train, nurture and improve players when he has so many.   I believe fitzy, Prunty and Low are all part time..   This surely has to be addressed this Hybrid model really is make it up as you go on.

Ian Murray takes all the training sessions himself? That's a huge shift from how he operated previously - he barely ever involved himself in training with us and let his assistant (Jack Ross/Beuzelin/Mark Spalding) do all of that. 

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1 hour ago, Passionate said:

Should our reserve team not be doing better,  Full time a couple of first teamers  on display or is it down to coaching,   Murray let it slip in the programme on saturday,  that he was the only coach for the full timers which I hear is 27 players,  Sean Crighton has been added  last week after leav ing his morto n gig.   How can one coach train, nurture and improve players when he has so many.   I believe fitzy, Prunty and Low are all part time..   This surely has to be addressed this Hybrid model really is make it up as you go on.

Most of the team that played last night were under 20's. We were 3-0 up until we had a man sent off and let it slip. The reserves are still undefeated.

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1 hour ago, Passionate said:

Should our reserve team not be doing better,  Full time a couple of first teamers  on display or is it down to coaching,   Murray let it slip in the programme on saturday,  that he was the only coach for the full timers which I hear is 27 players,  Sean Crighton has been added  last week after leav ing his morto n gig.   How can one coach train, nurture and improve players when he has so many.   I believe fitzy, Prunty and Low are all part time..   This surely has to be addressed this Hybrid model really is make it up as you go on.

The reserve league is always quite hard to gauge. Results fluctuate for most teams (probably) because one week you might have a plethora of first team players playing and the next week it's just a bunch of young boys playing. Last year for example Scott Robertson, Ben MacKenzie, Scott Stewart, Sean McIntosh, Dean Cairns, Joao Victoria and Cammy Russell all played in one game I went to. The next time I went it was exclusively young players. I'm not sure how many first team players were playing for the Shire but the reserves are still unbeaten at the moment which I think is decent all round. 

27 minutes ago, Jack Reed said:

Kristi marku ,is he on loan or have we signed him on full time contract .

Permanent signing. Don't know his contract status but I would guess full-time?

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6 hours ago, Passionate said:

Should our reserve team not be doing better,  Full time a couple of first teamers  on display or is it down to coaching,   Murray let it slip in the programme on saturday,  that he was the only coach for the full timers which I hear is 27 players,  Sean Crighton has been added  last week after leav ing his morto n gig.   How can one coach train, nurture and improve players when he has so many.   I believe fitzy, Prunty and Low are all part time..   This surely has to be addressed this Hybrid model really is make it up as you go on.

You've answered your own point. Ian Murray and the part time coaches realised they required more help, hence Sean was hired. No making it up as you go along - the staff identified a shortcoming and the board provided the funds to make it happen. That's improving the club.

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7 hours ago, airdrieman said:

The reserve league is always quite hard to gauge. Results fluctuate for most teams (probably) because one week you might have a plethora of first team players playing and the next week it's just a bunch of young boys playing. Last year for example Scott Robertson, Ben MacKenzie, Scott Stewart, Sean McIntosh, Dean Cairns, Joao Victoria and Cammy Russell all played in one game I went to. The next time I went it was exclusively young players. I'm not sure how many first team players were playing for the Shire but the reserves are still unbeaten at the moment which I think is decent all round. 

Permanent signing. Don't know his contract status but I would guess full-time?

Thanks  for that , 

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1 hour ago, GoalForAirdrie said:

I assume Leon McCann will be cup tied for Saturday? Not sure if the rule applies for colt teams. 

Never thought about that, will be interesting to see how we set up then

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31 minutes ago, Diamond Oracle said:

It’s almost as if they’re trying to get relegated.

Has he had a team relegated before. ???  His only season in management he managed to get to the promotion playoffs.

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Don't think we are in a position to laugh or joke about any other team manager ,players in players out ,we must have wasted quite a lot of money the past few years .Mark like  every body else deserves a other chance at management and good luck to him .

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Don't think we are in a position to laugh or joke about any other team manager ,players in players out ,we must have wasted quite a lot of money the past few years .Mark like  every body else deserves a other chance at management and good luck to him .

After he had a go at us?You’re backing him up!!

 

Never airdrie

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His “maybe it’s because I played for Celtic” comment left a bad taste - seemed completely without foundation.

Well within his rights to leave and given the shambles that followed probably the sensible decision. Can’t say he pulled up any trees at Airdrie and still not clear on who was picking the team between him and Dalziel!

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13 hours ago, Passionate said:

Has he had a team relegated before. ???  His only season in management he managed to get to the promotion playoffs.

The heavy caveat there though is that if Andy Ryan and Iain Russell hadn't scored nearly 50 goals between them we'd have been mid-table/bottom half of the league at best. His team, which were full-time, conceded almost 70 goals, got cuffed 5-0 by Stenny, put in a dismal performance at Livingston at Christmas when we were still relatively in with a chance of top spot (if Kevin Schmidt was still running around the Toni Macaroni arena today he still wouldn't have scored) and a series of other pathetic performances including against the Rovers, eventually relegated Queen's Park and the infamous midweek night at Brechin. The luminaries he signed were Kyle Hutton, Jack McKay, Simon Mensing and Jordan McGregor. I'm not sure you could consider any of them even a qualified success. We might have made the play-offs but I don't think anyone was confident of success and so it turned out. 

For me the worst thing about Wilson was that he always had an air of superiority about himself. Like he was bigger and better than Airdrieonians Football Club. That was reflected in comments like "Airdrie fans are difficult to please" and his maw/granny/auntie commenting on the Airdrie facebook page with "you're Airdrie what did you expect!!" after we got cuffed by Livingston and after pretty much every defeat when she would always leap to his defence. His "they didn't like me because I played for Celtic" comment after he left was pathetic. We didn't not like you because you played for Celtic, we didn't like you because you were pish at your job. 

As others have mentioned too, there's the doubt over whether it was really him or Dalziel that was in charge also. 

He seemed like he was done with management once he left us so I am shocked he's taken a job at another SPFL club. Even more shocked that another club would actually offer him a job though.

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4 hours ago, Spanish Armada said:

After he had a go at us?You’re backing him up!!

 

Never airdrie

Who  do you mean never Airdrie ,me or Wilson ???

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