Rossm25 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, strichener said: Not a good week for Airdrie with Rico now taking the club to a tribunal Instead of celebrating a great crowd and great effort from the board on Saturday we are chasing the names of knuckle draggers and facing a tribunal. Actions of a few ruin it for the rest of us ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernDiamond Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Instead of celebrating a great crowd and great effort from the board on Saturday we are chasing the names of knuckle draggers and facing a tribunal. Actions of a few ruin it for the rest of us ! Apparently the main offender in the Rico case is a director which is very concerning 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio 2 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, NorthernDiamond said: 48 minutes ago, Rossm25 said: Instead of celebrating a great crowd and great effort from the board on Saturday we are chasing the names of knuckle draggers and facing a tribunal. Actions of a few ruin it for the rest of us ! Apparently the main offender in the Rico case is a director which is very concerning According to the lunchtime news, Airdrie fans were accused of racial abuse and compensation was being sought from a director. If the posts on this thread are anything to go by, only one person was involved in the alleged abuse and that Mr Quitongo was not within earshot. Edited March 30, 2022 by Rio 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ77 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 hours ago, NorthernDiamond said: 2 hours ago, Rossm25 said: Instead of celebrating a great crowd and great effort from the board on Saturday we are chasing the names of knuckle draggers and facing a tribunal. Actions of a few ruin it for the rest of us ! Apparently the main offender in the Rico case is a director which is very concerning Who are the club directors at the present moment? Don't think i could name you any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossm25 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Would the compensation from the director not be because of the way it was all handled ? Putting aside the allegation Rico has. The way the club dealt with it was bizarre at best. For the first time in years we've a team on the park to be proud of. We should be building on that , not being dragged back to the 80s with Nazi salutes, racial abuse and some utter low life's jumping cove fans. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny_m Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, AJ77 said: Who are the club directors at the present moment? Don't think i could name you any. Paul Hetherington, Scott Russell, Sam Greene, Gavin Spiers, Gordon Watson & David Mcarthur are all listed on company director check. I think it's fair to say that PH is the most active. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr November Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I see the club have now posted a short statement about it. As was said at the time, not being able to find evidence is obviously disappointing for Rico but ultimately that’s always a possibility with something like this. The club’s statement at the time about it was very poor though, I feel if that had been worded better we might not be in this position now. I notice they never tweeted this statement or the one from yesterday with the pictures from Saturday though, which seems odd as that’s usually where I see the updates but that might just be a mistake. It’s really frustrating that just a few days on from drawing over 2,000 for a big game we’ve had Cove fans being assaulted, a fan being racist to Shay Logan and now this. @CapitalDiamond’s fundraiser is the one thing that hopefully shows the majority of us aren’t like this, it’s just we’re continually let down by a minority causing problems. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossm25 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Don't know if I've missed it but that's the first time I've seen a statement saying that it was passed to police Scotland. Thats good to hear at least , as it wasn't just an internal investigation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Do you think the guy on the Facebook page who was absolutely in favour of random punters getting battered at the football, but is outraged by a black man alleging racism needs to savlon his knuckles from pavement rash every single night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballboy Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, cb_diamond said: Do you think the guy on the Facebook page who was absolutely in favour of random punters getting battered at the football, but is outraged by a black man alleging racism needs to savlon his knuckles from pavement rash every single night? That's why I and a few people I know don't have anything to do with Facebook. What saddens me also if when like events on the news today and people reading views of "airdrie" fans we all get the label. Also as what happened after the game last Saturday these people don't realise that it's genuine airdrie fans or airdrie fans who actually go to games have to put up with the abuse from other teams fans or as I experienced not so long ago at an away game with raith rovers their is fans or people attached to other clubs who see all airdrie fans as section b and try to start fights. This latest escalation with the quitongo case quite interesting though. It seems this whole thing is based on hearsay. A supporter claimed to have heard racist abuse. The club have reported it and investigated but immediately Rico decided he couldn't play while the investigation happened. Then as no evidence was found but from a fans view it was obvious he wasn't happy. So the only one who can realistically resolve this, as nobody is likely to come forward by now is the supporter who made the complaint. Rico has based his whole case on this person. So to move to lawyers and lawsuits with no evidence, short of the person making the complaint and some kind of I'd parade I can't imagine courts could do much apart from check who and how the investigation was conducted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
She who dares gins Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 That's why I and a few people I know don't have anything to do with Facebook. What saddens me also if when like events on the news today and people reading views of "airdrie" fans we all get the label. Also as what happened after the game last Saturday these people don't realise that it's genuine airdrie fans or airdrie fans who actually go to games have to put up with the abuse from other teams fans or as I experienced not so long ago at an away game with raith rovers their is fans or people attached to other clubs who see all airdrie fans as section b and try to start fights. This latest escalation with the quitongo case quite interesting though. It seems this whole thing is based on hearsay. A supporter claimed to have heard racist abuse. The club have reported it and investigated but immediately Rico decided he couldn't play while the investigation happened. Then as no evidence was found but from a fans view it was obvious he wasn't happy. So the only one who can realistically resolve this, as nobody is likely to come forward by now is the supporter who made the complaint. Rico has based his whole case on this person. So to move to lawyers and lawsuits with no evidence, short of the person making the complaint and some kind of I'd parade I can't imagine courts could do much apart from check who and how the investigation was conducted. It’s been a really hard slam back down to earth after the excitement of the Cove game to see us trawled through the headlines for thuggery and racism by a group of clowns who seem to think this kind of behaviour is somehow backing their club. If you’re damaging your club and its reputation then you’re not a supporter. I’m embarrassed and really down this week. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passionate Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 10 hours ago, She who dares gins said: It’s been a really hard slam back down to earth after the excitement of the Cove game to see us trawled through the headlines for thuggery and racism by a group of clowns who seem to think this kind of behaviour is somehow backing their club. If you’re damaging your club and its reputation then you’re not a supporter. I’m embarrassed and really down this week. Just to clarify the" racism by a group of clowns" comment, Lets look at the facts. This was only unearthed by a Airdrie fan, we all know who he is, who was trolling Shay Logan late on Sat night and came across a conversation and a single silly emoji, and then decided to post all over facebook, just to be clear no forms of discrimination or racism was reported as far as I know at the stafium... "Storm chasing" this has caused the usual discussions on facebook, with certain individuals coming back to the group, quoting all sorts of legal advice, The club support seems as divided as ever and there have been more posts removed in the last 2 days since the return of the shit stirrers.... I think it is important to report the truth, please feel free to correct any of my points... The club have released a statement regarding the unfortunate Rico situation, anything happened at the weekend has nothing to do with that situaion, Lets leave it to the club to defend the name of he club we are all supposed o love... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Reed Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 12 hours ago, Ballboy said: That's why I and a few people I know don't have anything to do with Facebook. What saddens me also if when like events on the news today and people reading views of "airdrie" fans we all get the label. Also as what happened after the game last Saturday these people don't realise that it's genuine airdrie fans or airdrie fans who actually go to games have to put up with the abuse from other teams fans or as I experienced not so long ago at an away game with raith rovers their is fans or people attached to other clubs who see all airdrie fans as section b and try to start fights. This latest escalation with the quitongo case quite interesting though. It seems this whole thing is based on hearsay. A supporter claimed to have heard racist abuse. The club have reported it and investigated but immediately Rico decided he couldn't play while the investigation happened. Then as no evidence was found but from a fans view it was obvious he wasn't happy. So the only one who can realistically resolve this, as nobody is likely to come forward by now is the supporter who made the complaint. Rico has based his whole case on this person. So to move to lawyers and lawsuits with no evidence, short of the person making the complaint and some kind of I'd parade I can't imagine courts could do much apart from check who and how the investigation was conducted. Aye, a supporter who may or may not be a Airdrie supporter, like sat all to easy to give Airdrie fc and Airdrie true fans a bad name, would be great if Airdrie can make sure that the 3 lads involved will be in no position to cause further trouble at any game in future, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CapitalDiamond Posted March 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Passionate said: Just to clarify the" racism by a group of clowns" comment, Lets look at the facts. This was only unearthed by a Airdrie fan, we all know who he is, who was trolling Shay Logan late on Sat night and came across a conversation and a single silly emoji, and then decided to post all over facebook, just to be clear no forms of discrimination or racism was reported as far as I know at the stafium... "Storm chasing" this has caused the usual discussions on facebook, with certain individuals coming back to the group, quoting all sorts of legal advice, The club support seems as divided as ever and there have been more posts removed in the last 2 days since the return of the shit stirrers.... I think it is important to report the truth, please feel free to correct any of my points... The club have released a statement regarding the unfortunate Rico situation, anything happened at the weekend has nothing to do with that situaion, Lets leave it to the club to defend the name of he club we are all supposed o love... Is this a reference to me? Hard to tell as your second sentence made no sense and seems to mix the person who sent a monkey emoji (a social media user called Pride Of Lanarkshire), the person who uncovered it (Shay Logan) and myself (Colin Telford) for then adding screen shots of the conversation to a closed group of Airdrie supporters. From my perspective, I was as excited about Saturday as I have been any game for 20 years. To get to the stadium and find the home end rammed was amazing. Atmosphere was great throughout. Team performed and the late goal was demoralising. That’s football and I’ve not given up hope of results going our way this weekend to still give us some excitement to end the season with. However by Sunday morning I learned that a Cove fan had been attacked, knocked unconscious and taken to hospital and then just to put the tin lid on it, there were screen grabs, circulating widely on Twitter and posted by Shay Logan himself (therefore seen and reposted by tens of thousands of people) showing someone purporting to be an Airdrie fan (a pro Ukrainian one judging by the profile photo) abusing Shay and sending a monkey emoji to him - and then deleting it but not before Shay had screen grabbed it. I posted that on a closed Facebook page for Airdrie supporters as I think it’s deplorable, should be seen and discussed by the fan base. I’d hope all people condemn it and it might make the perpetrator and anyone else who would think of doing something similar realise the negative impact on the club’s reputation it can have. I appreciate some people have expressed the view that I shouldn’t have given attention to one individuals act (or a “silly emoji” as you put it). I disagree, it was already in the public domain and I think I was only really highlighting it to our own community of supporters in the hope of changing people’s opinions. But people are entitled to their own views. I learn more about the attack on the Cove fans each day and it gets worse. I’ve now seen a video of the blow landed on Michael and it is truly sickening. A cowardly blow on a fan, in a club jersey with his hands in his pockets minding his own business. I’m sure it will come into the public domain after a court conviction but it could have been a fatality. The young mob (a decent number of them who all look around school leaving age) then run away chanting Section B. 5 days on Michael still has constant head aches, has lost half a stone because he can’t eat solids and can’t sleep. Probably signs of concussion and will hopefully disappear soon, horrific none the less and broken teeth isn’t a great thing to have either. This morning I learned that the same mob took a Cove supporters walking stick and snapped it. I knew nothing of developments in the Rico Quitongo affair until yesterday. I don’t believe it’s relevant to Saturday and it sounds as if it will go through due process at the Employment Appeals Tribunal. I’ve gone from a massive high to a real low, I’ve got Covid (which means I’ve got nothing better to do than bite on this bait) and I can’t really be bothered engaging on this stuff. edited to fix some foggy brained typos Edited March 31, 2022 by CapitalDiamond 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The clean living guy Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thankfully I don't go near Facebook so I miss most of it but from what I see in screen shots there are a few Airdrie fans desprate to jump on anything negative from Airdrie supporters and a minority who will defend every thing. For what its worth what happened with the Cove fans on Saturday was wrong on so many levels. I hope the guy recovers soon. I'm not sure if the club releasing a picture of 3 guys will be helpful in the long run as it doesn't really show much and could possibly harm any investigation by the police. The instagram account who sent the messages to Shay Logan is allegedly a young kid. Not that, that makes it right though. I can't see the Rico Quitongo tribunal going in his favour. Have heard stories about the guy for years. Wouldn't it be fantastic if we could focus on the football though? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny_m Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Jack Reed said: Aye, a supporter who may or may not be a Airdrie supporter, like sat all to easy to give Airdrie fc and Airdrie true fans a bad name, would be great if Airdrie can make sure that the 3 lads involved will be in no position to cause further trouble at any game in future, It's a tough gig for an Airdrie supporter to go to a tribunal and give evidence against the club. What's more interesting is Quitongo's allegation against a director which suggests something other than the initial incident has taken place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough diamond Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On the Rico story, in the Sun today it states "Quitongo said the shouts came from a section of Excelsior Stadium where his family normally sit but "thankfully they weren't there on that occasion". Sun story below. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8641343/airdrie-rico-quitongo-race-discrimination-claim-club-director/ The Club requested on 15th September, witnesses to the alledged incident at Firhill vs Queens Park, this is the location stated in the BBC story, statement from the Club website in full below. https://www.airdriefc.com/2122-news/210915/club-statement So Rico , the Sun story or both are incorrect regards where and when! The Club then made a statement on 12th October making the following point "On the basis that we have no more than one witness, to one alleged unidentifiable and indistinguishable perpetrator, we have now exhausted all possible options. We will continue as a club, alongside the whole of Scottish Football, to have a zero tolerance approach towards racism." Statement in full from the Club website below. https://www.airdriefc.com/2122-news/211012/club-statement---racism-allegation Neither of the Clubs statements were quoted by The Sun, they say they contacted the Club for comment yet the statements are there to be read and quoted, lazy journalism? The BBC story below is far more balanced and quotes the Club as I have. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-60926681 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny_m Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 55 minutes ago, rough diamond said: On the Rico story, in the Sun today it states "Quitongo said the shouts came from a section of Excelsior Stadium where his family normally sit but "thankfully they weren't there on that occasion". Sun story below. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8641343/airdrie-rico-quitongo-race-discrimination-claim-club-director/ The Club requested on 15th September, witnesses to the alledged incident at Firhill vs Queens Park, this is the location stated in the BBC story, statement from the Club website in full below. https://www.airdriefc.com/2122-news/210915/club-statement So Rico , the Sun story or both are incorrect regards where and when! The Club then made a statement on 12th October making the following point "On the basis that we have no more than one witness, to one alleged unidentifiable and indistinguishable perpetrator, we have now exhausted all possible options. We will continue as a club, alongside the whole of Scottish Football, to have a zero tolerance approach towards racism." Statement in full from the Club website below. https://www.airdriefc.com/2122-news/211012/club-statement---racism-allegation Neither of the Clubs statements were quoted by The Sun, they say they contacted the Club for comment yet the statements are there to be read and quoted, lazy journalism? The BBC story below is far more balanced and quotes the Club as I have. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-60926681 He's done his career no good at all. There will be a lot of clubs who won't touch him after this when you factor in the fact that he's not very good. No real surprise the Sun is inaccurate!! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Reed Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 43 minutes ago, Kenny_m said: He's done his career no good at all. There will be a lot of clubs who won't touch him after this when you factor in the fact that he's not very good. No real surprise the Sun is inaccurate!! A lot of fabrication me thinks, was this not the game where a man and maybe his son were shouting at someone in the stand maybe a director or someone, he seemed to be venting his anger at when leaving ground . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballboy Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Kenny_m said: He's done his career no good at all. There will be a lot of clubs who won't touch him after this when you factor in the fact that he's not very good. No real surprise the Sun is inaccurate!! That was my thinking too in terms of employment law. How would this be taken in any other job? I'm sure people hear things in the work place everyday that lead to workplace investigations but to immediately down tools till the investigation is over then when said disgruntled employe leaves then goes to court as the alleged offender wasn't hunted down. Not going to help him in the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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