Pesadilla Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Passionate said: The prize money owed varies from tabloid to tabloid, it is very much a grey area if we are going by what the For far chairman claimed that they were owed 3.7k from there overall prize money that apparently gets paid in 3 instalments...... If we go with these figures Airdrie are due in the region of 19k. Overall season prize money for finishing third is 87.5k Supposedly when play was suspended a substantial amount of the final payment was given. Read Stranraer's statement on the finances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFC1878 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 https://www.airdriefc.com/1920news/150420/Club-Statement%3A-League-conclusion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesadilla Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, AFC1878 said: https://www.airdriefc.com/1920news/150420/Club-Statement%3A-League-conclusion This is thin gruel. Unbelieveable and paltry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondJack85 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Pesadilla said: This is thin gruel. Unbelieveable and paltry. So what other solution is out there apart from calling the league? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesadilla Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 So what other solution is out there apart from calling the league? We wait to see what plays out from UEFA and other governing bodies. We've rushed this. Rumours of coersion are rife. It stinks.And under the circumstances we’ve found ourselves in - voiding the league would be fairer. This will end up in the courts - especially clubs like Thistle who were two behind safety with a game in hand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondJack85 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pesadilla said: We wait to see what plays out from UEFA and other governing bodies. We've rushed this. Rumours of coersion are rife. It stinks. The only options I can see is either calling the season or null and void the season and both have the same outcome for us. There's no way we can possibly finish the season with the amount of players in the lower leagues who are out of contract come June so no matter what UEFA or other governing bodies say that won't change. I don't see the point in waiting for another option to appear when there isn't one there. I dare say the board haven't taken this decision lightly, they have put the money in to try and get us back to the Championship and it looks like reconstruction is the only outcome that will allow that to happen for us this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFC1878 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 We wait to see what plays out from UEFA and other governing bodies. We've rushed this. Rumours of coersion are rife. It stinks.And under the circumstances we’ve found ourselves in - voiding the league would be fairer. This will end up in the courts - especially clubs like Thistle who were two behind safety with a game in hand. Relegation will be scrapped. Top 2 in each league will be promoted resulting in 14 team Premiership which will split into top 6 and bottom 8, and Brora and Kelty will come into League 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballboy Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, AFC1878 said: Relegation will be scrapped. Top 2 in each league will be promoted resulting in 14 team Premiership which will split into top 6 and bottom 8, and Brora and Kelty will come into League 2. Their must be more to all this. Why would dundee change their vote if the only benefit they get is a few friendlys that their fans would ultimately have to stump up ticket money for? No way they vote Dundee utd champions if doesnt benefit themselves in some way. I think they have been promised a 16 team league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond120593 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Can’t help but think we’ll end up one of the biggest losers here . Denied a chance to get promotion when in a strong position as any to do so. The possibility of the top two going up under reconstruction leaving us behind or no reconstruction leaving us to go again against thistle and raith with far superior budgets. The null and void option doesn’t seem as bad as originally thought 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondJack85 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Diamond120593 said: Can’t help but think we’ll end up one of the biggest losers here . Denied a chance to get promotion when in a strong position as any to do so. The possibility of the top two going up under reconstruction leaving us behind or no reconstruction leaving us to go again against thistle and raith with far superior budgets. The null and void option doesn’t seem as bad as originally thought Null and void is apparently not even an option as sponsors and TV companies would be legally entitled to claim back money from the league if its not completed. The same money that the SPFL hands out as prize money at the end of the season so no sponsor or TV money would mean no prize money and many teams would end up going to the wall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pesadilla said: It's a shambles. Airdrie as a club lurch from one disaster to the next. Just when the furore of the Trust argument had settled down somewhat, the inexplicable vote to shoot our own cock and balls off. The club come up with the well publicised - and well received - begging bowl in the form of Club 1924 then castrate our league campaign without a by your leave, especially to the hundreds of season ticket holders who've saw their value for money purchase go up in smoke. From my understanding of the other thread on the matter - we're due an outstanding £4k or so - why on earth would we vote to lose any chance of promotion for such a paltry (in the scheme of things) sum? This is actually why we needed a Trust to hold the board to account rather than the odd cabal we have at the moment. The club have done everything they can to get us in a position to be promoted and finally get us out of this league. In a playing sense we had nothing to lose by the season playing out - wouldn't have dropped below 5th and could have gone up. Given that, does it not make you think the club must have been absolutely certain there was no alternative here? Why else would they give that up given the work they have put into it? Edited April 16, 2020 by Diamonds are Forever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Diamond120593 said: Can’t help but think we’ll end up one of the biggest losers here . Denied a chance to get promotion when in a strong position as any to do so. The possibility of the top two going up under reconstruction leaving us behind or no reconstruction leaving us to go again against thistle and raith with far superior budgets. The null and void option doesn’t seem as bad as originally thought What difference would null and void make? Both result in us staying in League One. And as has been mentioned, there is the slight issue of having to pay back our entire season's prize money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFC1878 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Their must be more to all this. Why would dundee change their vote if the only benefit they get is a few friendlys that their fans would ultimately have to stump up ticket money for? No way they vote Dundee utd champions if doesnt benefit themselves in some way. I think they have been promised a 16 team league. The SPFL are not in a position to promise a 16 team league. It would have to be voted on by the Premiership clubs and and the chances of it being approved are slim to none. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipper Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Interesting to read in the statement that while the club reluctantly accept the ending of the season they do not accept Raith Rovers as champions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipper Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, AFC1878 said: The SPFL are not in a position to promise a 16 team league. It would have to be voted on by the Premiership clubs and and the chances of it being approved are slim to none. If it was 3 leagues of 14 would that be enough to take Dundee up or does it have to be a 16 team top league ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_for_life Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, Nipper said: If it was 3 leagues of 14 would that be enough to take Dundee up or does it have to be a 16 team top league ? Dundee were 3rd so it would depend if Hearts go down. If not then the two up would be Dundee Utd and Inverness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond120593 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 What difference would null and void make? Both result in us staying in League One. And as has been mentioned, there is the slight issue of having to pay back our entire season's prize money.In terms of competition if we are serious about getting out the league sooner rather than later. I Would fancy our chances more with the teams as they are now than potentially having thistle Falkirk and cove in the league who will likely challenge also. The prize money as rightly mentioned is the deal breaker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballboy Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, AFC1878 said: The SPFL are not in a position to promise a 16 team league. It would have to be voted on by the Premiership clubs and and the chances of it being approved are slim to none. Goes back to what I said though. Their must be more to this than we are being told. Dundee wouldn't agree to promote Dundee utd without some sort of benefit to themselves. Unless they have been told a reconstruction proposal from them would be considered first. To promote the top four championship teams and no relegation would please them. Partick will stay in the championship so wont complain too hard.Hearts and Hamilton chairmen are running the debate so I personally think that's what they will push for and wont really care about the rest of the clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesadilla Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 10 hours ago, DiamondJack85 said: Null and void is apparently not even an option as sponsors and TV companies would be legally entitled to claim back money from the league if its not completed. The same money that the SPFL hands out as prize money at the end of the season so no sponsor or TV money would mean no prize money and many teams would end up going to the wall. That's for the courts. I'd imagine like most contracts of this nature there would be some form of force majeure clause. I'm sure the league could argue that sponsors have had a significant advertising window and any monies paid back would be minimal - that's even if the sponsors chose to go to court on it...same with the TV. The 14/10/10/10 option was mentioned a week or so ago - and it makes us one of the biggest losers in the whole set up, ironically along with Dundee. I can't see that happening to be honest - you've got at assume Dundee have been promised more. Either way, it should have been voided. You don't call the result of an abandoned game. Reconstruction should only be carefully considered and be a long term move to even the monetary gap in the game. We're rushing this through because the SPFL have made a total balls up of the situation. From a selfish perspective, we'd have probably been in a sounder financial position than Falkirk or Raith next year had it been nullified, I hear both are in deep do-doo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airdrie76 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 The key thing Dundee gains from a 14 top flight is an easier run at promotion. No team down and best 2 from this season up will leave them favourites. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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