airdrieman Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 12 hours ago, Diamond Oracle said: If we got a fee for him - fantastic. It was obvious he wasn’t going to play much this season so better getting something now than waiting until the end of the season and releasing him. It's worth mentioning too that maybe the club had no intention of letting him go until a bid from Kelty came in, Cammy got wind of it and decided himself that he wanted to leave? I'd rather have had him around than not but if he wanted to leave to get more regular game time then I think it's a fair decision. 11 hours ago, FLDiamond said: Said on here many weeks ago we need another striker, someone who has performed at this level or preferably from a higher league with a decent record and needs consistent first team football. If we are serious about getting out of the first division and getting prepared for Championship football we need to make a good quality signing. If any of our forwards get injured or hit a dry spell we are in trouble. And already, one goal in 2 games isn’t convincing. DoF talked about biding our time to get the best signings, let’s see if there is a desire to firm up the front line. We’ll need to score our way out of trouble in a few games this year and although I’m hoping to be proved wrong, there may not be enough there to keep us consistently in top 4 Calum Gallagher got 16(?) goals last season. He's proven that, when played upfront, he can score goals at this level. For some reason he's barely featured so far. Which I'm sure might have been part of the reason why Russell decided to go if even Gallagher can't get in the team at the moment. I'd like to see us start with Gallagher and Smith upfront on Saturday. I think Smith is better than Russell so the comments about developing another team's player ahead of our own are a tad unfair. Was anybody clamouring for Russell to play ahead of Smith before last night? The jury is still out on Roy for me. Has some nice touches but struggles to make an impact on the game IMO, although possibly being stuck out wide hasn't helped. Probably doesn't help that he's playing beside and so will be getting compared to Smith who is involved in the game all the time. There's Carrick as well although as we know he's unlikely to get you many goals. Will that be enough? If they're all on form then yes, it should be fine. Any injuries or loss of form and we might start to struggle although that would probably have been the case even if Russell stayed. I guess Smith could technically be called back at some point too depending on the terms of his loan? There's Hughes and Pyott from the academy and reserves respectively too although Hughes is only 16 and Pyott has no senior first team experience. Millar said Murray is happy with the squad as it is at the moment so we'll just have to go with it. I do think a a partnership of Gallagher and Smith upfront would be decent enough for this level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Moon said: Young players need to be developed though. 40 games played across a variety of positions and on an inconsistent basis doesn't really demonstrate a real chance for the boys. I'm not raging about the decision but I would have liked to see him given a run in the team. As others have said I'm not in to bringing in someones else's young guy with no experience and no history of league goals when we have our own who we could give an opportunity to. Having said all that, it just goes to show what fans know. All of the young players who were expected to develop when they got their chance have now been punted. although to be fair Edwards has gone up a league. Again, if they were good enough they would have demanded by their performances regular starts in their preferred position. The managers and coaches see these guys every week in training/youth games/reserve games and their first team appearances. It may sound harsh, but given how bad we've been the last few years if guys can't get themselves a regular game after 2-3 years around the first team it is because they aren't up to standard, not because of opportunities. On the second point, I am absolutely up for bringing in other guys over our own if they are better. Smith is a better footballer than Russell so that is good with me. The priority is to get out of this league by getting the best team on the pitch. Developing our own youngsters would be nice, but it should never be at the expense of the quality of player in the first team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShineOnYouCrazyDiamonds Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 There's Pagey away now. Glad that's that all sorted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrieman Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Expect Diamond Owl along soon... All the best to him though. Obviously it didn’t work out here for whatever reason but he can find some fitness and some enjoyment in football again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dextermorgan Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Looks like the 'fee' we got for Cammy was used to pay off Page going by the timing. Would like to think we could bring a striker in shortly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Diamonds are Forever said: Again, if they were good enough they would have demanded by their performances regular starts in their preferred position. The managers and coaches see these guys every week in training/youth games/reserve games and their first team appearances. It may sound harsh, but given how bad we've been the last few years if guys can't get themselves a regular game after 2-3 years around the first team it is because they aren't up to standard, not because of opportunities. On the second point, I am absolutely up for bringing in other guys over our own if they are better. Smith is a better footballer than Russell so that is good with me. The priority is to get out of this league by getting the best team on the pitch. Developing our own youngsters would be nice, but it should never be at the expense of the quality of player in the first team. I can't wholly disagree with your second point, largely because we need to get out of this league and I think we're all eager for that to happen. But not developing youngsters for the first team is a poor long term strategy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Very glad Page is gone. His attitude stank last season. Then his self entitled bawling the other week just crystallised my already rock bottom opinion of him! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Reed Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, cb_diamond said: Very glad Page is gone. His attitude stank last season. Then his self entitled bawling the other week just crystallised my already rock bottom opinion of him! Likely be two sides to story . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Oracle Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 We get our first look at Kyle MacDonald tonight, hope he shows up well.Looking at the lineup he may be playing at left back though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie_3 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 That didn’t take long 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFC1878 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I forgot all about Page to be honest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulloch Gorum Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 That Brechin - Elgin game is the game to be at tonight. 0-2 for Elgin after three minutes, 3-3 at half time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Armada Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Would have preferred keeping Russell ans letting Roy go. From what I have seen of him, he has no pace, cant beat a man and is limited in the goal scoring stakes, going by his record with previous clubs. Roy’s Pish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD1711 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 That was an awful game to watch tonight, Carrick is rotten, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo1968 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 My god that was tough to watch, back 4 done well, the rest... no comment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond legend Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 We get our first look at Kyle MacDonald tonight, hope he shows up well.Looking at the lineup he may be playing at left back though.Played out of position very right footed but I quite liked the look of him especially first game of season and coming back from injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passionate Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, KD1711 said: That was an awful game to watch tonight, Carrick is rotten, He is one of the forwards Murray is banking on to fire us to the championship, scored tonight and seems to have taken on scot Stewart's mantle as the housewives favourite.. I agree he is hopeless and seagal is pish tae. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond legend Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 That was an awful game to watch tonight, Carrick is rotten, Headless chicken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenmavis Diamond Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Stevo1968 said: My god that was tough to watch, back 4 done well, the rest... no comment The back four? Kerr was awful. Poor passing and some dodgy attempted clearances. Agreed though that it was tough to watch. Performances like that will not put bums on seats. Especially at £17 a pop. Edited August 13, 2019 by Glenmavis Diamond 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond legend Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 My god that was tough to watch, back 4 done well, the rest... no commentDidn't fancy the right back Mckay but don't like judging the guy in one game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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