Would you like to see your club join the Pyramid?

[AlanCamelonfan]

5 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

The top tier of the EOSFL is going to be a region wide 16 team league in 2019-20 and beyond.

The top tier of the East Region in 2019-20 is a:

12 team region wide Super League

No wait!

Two 10 team North & South Super Leagues with a playoff for East champion

Not so fast!

Two 18 North and South Super Leagues

The EoS at least has a fixed point to work around.

 

East Region south next season if 10 team super league would be a 6 or 7 (if the boness team happens). Im not sure teams would want to be in a 7 team league so is that even going to get through

[Talbot 1978]

East Region south next season if 10 team super league would be a 6 or 7 (if the boness team happens). Im not sure teams would want to be in a 7 team league so is that even going to get through

Good reply Alan the Camelon fan but just after BM so you lose marks

[Pyramidic]

23 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

The only uncertainty is whether more clubs will leave the ERJFA and join the EoS before 31st March.  Glenrothes Juniors and Glenrothes Strollers will join a Conference at tier 7 for next season, the only decision that is to be made is how many Conferences – as nobody knows how many new applicants there will be – and whether they will be seeded like this season, or regionalised.

So there will be a 16 team EoS Premier at tier 6 next season with the winners entering the LL play-off, and at least 2 x 12 team Conferences next season promoting into it.  After the 31st March deadline and they know how many clubs they have at tier 7, then the EoS Board will decide further what happens next season and beyond, the clubs themselves are involved in the discussion.

The EoS and clubs are happy to operate another transitional season at tier 7 next season to accommodate more new applicants, after that there is no guarantee that new applicants wont have to join the bottom division at tier 8 in a traditional divisional structure.

I trust that explanation prevents any meltdowns and misunderstandings.

Do you really mean Burnie_man that if SJFA East Region Superleague clubs like Whitburn Juniors, Thornton Hibs, Kennoway Star Hearts and Fauldhouse United do not move over to the EoSL for next season (2019/20) there is a stong possibility of them being placed at Tier 8 for subsequent seasons (2020/21 onwards)?  This would assume a structure of Premier League, Division 1 and Division 2 (possibly split into 2 sections).

This could place the Hoose and other current Juniors two tiers below say a club like Crossgates Primrose who were brave enough to make the move.

Do you think that the EoSL member clubs will wish to go for a traditional structure covering 3 tiers for 2020/21?

[Jason King]

I take it the news coming out of Ayrshire of there being "splitters" is what has caused the Isa meltdown over the last couple of days.

[Beenzon-Toste]

The only uncertainty is whether more clubs will leave the ERJFA and join the EoS before 31st March.  Glenrothes Juniors and Glenrothes Strollers will join a Conference at tier 7 for next season, the only decision that is to be made is how many Conferences – as nobody knows how many new applicants there will be – and whether they will be seeded like this season, or regionalised.
So there will be a 16 team EoS Premier at tier 6 next season with the winners entering the LL play-off, and at least 2 x 12 team Conferences next season promoting into it.  After the 31st March deadline and they know how many clubs they have at tier 7, then the EoS Board will decide further what happens next season and beyond, the clubs themselves are involved in the discussion.
The EoS and clubs are happy to operate another transitional season at tier 7 next season to accommodate more new applicants, after that there is no guarantee that new applicants wont have to join the bottom division at tier 8 in a traditional divisional structure.
I trust that explanation prevents any meltdowns and misunderstandings.

So, to re-cap, it will be season to season then?

[Beenzon-Toste]

You having another meltdown?

No. Just looking for answers. But since you weren't available to keep Alan right, I had to settle for his version.

[Jason King]

3 minutes ago, Beenzon-Toste said:

32 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

The only uncertainty is whether more clubs will leave the ERJFA and join the EoS before 31st March.  Glenrothes Juniors and Glenrothes Strollers will join a Conference at tier 7 for next season, the only decision that is to be made is how many Conferences – as nobody knows how many new applicants there will be – and whether they will be seeded like this season, or regionalised.
So there will be a 16 team EoS Premier at tier 6 next season with the winners entering the LL play-off, and at least 2 x 12 team Conferences next season promoting into it.  After the 31st March deadline and they know how many clubs they have at tier 7, then the EoS Board will decide further what happens next season and beyond, the clubs themselves are involved in the discussion.
The EoS and clubs are happy to operate another transitional season at tier 7 next season to accommodate more new applicants, after that there is no guarantee that new applicants wont have to join the bottom division at tier 8 in a traditional divisional structure.
I trust that explanation prevents any meltdowns and misunderstandings.

So, to re-cap, it will be season to season then?

As it was in the Central section of the West Juniors until the arrival this season of the regional leagues at all levels. Teams started a season in the Central 1 and Central 2 in August not knowing how many teams would be in their league the following season as it was dependent on which region the clubs relegated out of the Regional leagues were going into.

The EoS is catering for new clubs by accomodating them as best it can at the lower levels of their structure.

So whats your point caller?

[AlanCamelonfan]

5 minutes ago, Beenzon-Toste said:

35 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

The only uncertainty is whether more clubs will leave the ERJFA and join the EoS before 31st March.  Glenrothes Juniors and Glenrothes Strollers will join a Conference at tier 7 for next season, the only decision that is to be made is how many Conferences – as nobody knows how many new applicants there will be – and whether they will be seeded like this season, or regionalised.
So there will be a 16 team EoS Premier at tier 6 next season with the winners entering the LL play-off, and at least 2 x 12 team Conferences next season promoting into it.  After the 31st March deadline and they know how many clubs they have at tier 7, then the EoS Board will decide further what happens next season and beyond, the clubs themselves are involved in the discussion.
The EoS and clubs are happy to operate another transitional season at tier 7 next season to accommodate more new applicants, after that there is no guarantee that new applicants wont have to join the bottom division at tier 8 in a traditional divisional structure.
I trust that explanation prevents any meltdowns and misunderstandings.

So, to re-cap, it will be season to season then?

Not exactly. They aren't ripping up the whole structure like ersjfa is doing

[Black & Red Socks]

7 minutes ago, Pyramidic said:

Do you really mean Burnie_man that if SJFA East Region Superleague clubs like Whitburn Juniors, Thornton Hibs, Kennoway Star Hearts and Fauldhouse United do not move over to the EoSL for next season (2019/20) there is a stong possibility of them being placed at Tier 8 for subsequent seasons (2020/21 onwards)?  This would assume a structure of Premier League, Division 1 and Division 2 (possibly split into 2 sections).

This could place the Hoose and other current Juniors two tiers below say a club like Crossgates Primrose who were brave enough to make the move.

Do you think that the EoSL member clubs will wish to go for a traditional structure covering 3 tiers for 2020/21?

I think that's exactly what will happen. It's a structured and logical progression towards it, unlike the mess that the ERSJFA is likely to become, despite what is being implied by two petty trolls on the thread.. Indeed, the only reason they probably won't go for the traditional structure covering three tiers for season 2019/20 is to prevent teams currently at Tier 6 falling to Tier 8 in the in one 'relegation'. Accordingly, what's on offer to those who might want to join the EoSFL ahead of next season is much more attractive than what is on offer the season after next if the choice is to simply procrastinate in the ERSJFA for another season.

[Burnie_man]

6 minutes ago, Pyramidic said:

Do you really mean Burnie_man that if SJFA East Region Superleague clubs like Whitburn Juniors, Thornton Hibs, Kennoway Star Hearts and Fauldhouse United do not move over to the EoSL for next season (2019/20) there is a stong possibility of them being placed at Tier 8 for subsequent seasons (2020/21 onwards)?  This would assume a structure of Premier League, Division 1 and Division 2 (possibly split into 2 sections).

This could place the Hoose and other current Juniors two tiers below say a club like Crossgates Primrose who were brave enough to make the move.

Do you think that the EoSL member clubs will wish to go for a traditional structure covering 3 tiers for 2020/21?

Yeah, that's the way it will probably go in my opinion, Premier, One, Two, but it's upto the Board/clubs to decide after 31st March and start planning. It might not.

Either way I doubt EoS member clubs will want another transitional season in 2020-2021.  They have been more than accommodating for this season and next, and a line has to be drawn.  Why would you keep doing it in the vein hope that Junior clubs who have turned down the opportunity on two occasions might decide at some point down the road to join.  Some of the smaller clubs we have played this season have talked about looking forward to getting back into a division with clubs of the same standard so there's an end to the painful defeats.

Crossgates Primrose on this seasons form would have done well in the Junior Superleague, so perhaps a little unfair using them as an example as they are in a good position to claim an EoS Premier spot.

[Beenzon-Toste]

Well you have because if the rest aren't in tier 7 they'd be relegated multiple tiers

Lost me now.
Rest of what or who?
What multiple tiers are you on about?

[Talbot 1978]

Do you really mean Burnie_man that if SJFA East Region Superleague clubs like Whitburn Juniors, Thornton Hibs, Kennoway Star Hearts and Fauldhouse United do not move over to the EoSL for next season (2019/20) there is a stong possibility of them being placed at Tier 8 for subsequent seasons (2020/21 onwards)?  This would assume a structure of Premier League, Division 1 and Division 2 (possibly split into 2 sections).
This could place the Hoose and other current Juniors two tiers below say a club like Crossgates Primrose who were brave enough to make the move.
Do you think that the EoSL member clubs will wish to go for a traditional structure covering 3 tiers for 2020/21?

Interesting

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

I take it the news coming out of Ayrshire of there being "splitters" is what has caused the Isa meltdown over the last couple of days.

Cumnock applying for licensing?

[AlanCamelonfan]

5 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Cumnock applying for licensing?

I saw someone saying on facebook First game since Cumnock announced leaving the juniors lol

[Marten]

1 hour ago, Beenzon-Toste said:

Conferences leading to what though?
More conferences?
Season to season then.

Any club leaving the ERSJFA just now would be a bit pointless because of the uncertainty. They could very well end up worse off.

There is no uncertainty, every club that applies to the EOS, regardless of whether they are currently junior/amateur or a new club, will be placed at tier 7 if accepted. At the bottom tier in a pyramid there is always a season to season approach as there can be new clubs or clubs dropping out, so it will affect the structure. The same goes for the bottom tiers in the juniors, who had plenty of restructuring over the years in all regions. Once tier 7 is filled in the EOS and a tier 8 gets formed, new applicants will go in there. If (hopefully one day) amateurs tag onto the pyramid below the EOS (so from tier 9 down for example), their bottom tier will be prone to new clubs and/or clubs dropping out in the same way. And that won't be anything new as SAFA leagues regularly have to restructure to account for new clubs or clubs leaving.

[Talbot 1978]

I take it the news coming out of Ayrshire of there being "splitters" is what has caused the Isa meltdown over the last couple of days.

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[Talbot 1978]

I saw someone saying on facebook First game since Cumnock announced leaving the juniors lol

Intimate and Alan having a discussion?

Why don't you two just look into the mirror? [emoji23]

[honestman54]

4 hours ago, Beenzon-Toste said:

So will the 2 leagues of 12 be tier 7 and 8?
Or is it to be 2 conference leagues to determine tier 7 and 8 for season 2020/21?
And if there's more than 8 applications then I assume it will definitely be 3 Conference leagues?
It all looks season to season to me if that's the case.

I thought the answer from Marten was clear.  Tier 6 being resolved this season.  If no more than 12 teams enter the league in March then that is tier 7 sorted.  If more come in then there has to be a further season to sort out tiers 7 and 8.  Simples!!!!!

[Ranaldo Bairn]

Absolutely howling at these spamming gonks representing "the grade" Talbot.

 

[Talbot 1978]

Absolutely howling at these spamming gonks representing "the grade" Talbot.
 

Gonks? Please explain this one Ranaldo Bairn