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It sucks that this whole situation is a clash between morals and money.

On the plus side at least more than 7 people in France have heard of Nantes so they should make good on the publicity.

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47 minutes ago, Crroma said:

It sucks that this whole situation is a clash between morals and money.

On the plus side at least more than 7 people in France have heard of Nantes so they should make good on the publicity.

It seems abhorrent but to be honest, Cardiff can't really afford to give away money they would have had to pay Nantes.

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Would someone being investigated for involuntary manslaughter by gross negligence be arrested simply for 'manslaughter"' or does this mean what it normally means i.e. intent to harm?
I think for a normal manslaughter charge you need to have an intent to kill/harm. But for an involuntary manslaughter charge you did not have any intent to kill/harm but your actions still caused a death (like cutting corners with a safety critical task)
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https://www.inbrief.co.uk/offences/involuntary-manslaughter/

 

Involuntary manslaughter occurs when an unlawful and dangerous, or grossly negligent act or omission causes someone else’s death. In these circumstances, a person kills another – but lacks the intent to kill or to cause grievous bodily harm (GBH).

‘Constructive manslaughter’ and ‘gross negligence’ manslaughter are both forms of involuntary manslaughter.

 

It looks like Involuntary Manslaughter covers Manslaughter with Gross Neglect. It goes into that in the link I posted. So to me, it looks like if the plane was not in full working order and you were still allow it to be used and you knew that the plane was fucked you could be done with manslaughter with gross neglect which comes under Involuntary Manslaughter.  

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It's official:

Pilot error

Mr Ibbotson lost control of the plane while descending to avoid cloud and he was probably also affected by carbon monoxide, the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) concluded.

The plane began to break up in mid-air as the pilot tried to regain control, investigators found.

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Some Weekend at Bernie's stuff from Cardiff.

Cardiff City tried to insure Sala for £20m the day after his death - court

 

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Cardiff City tried to take out £20m insurance on Emiliano Sala the day after he was killed in a plane crash, say papers filed to the High Court.
 

Sala's plane crashed into the English Channel on 21 January 2019, killing the striker and pilot David Ibbotson.
 

A company of insurance brokers said the club failed to get cover before Sala's plane went down in January 2019.
 

Cardiff City bosses are seeking damages of more than £10m from insurance brokers following the death.
 

Argentine player Sala, 28, was on a private flight from Nantes as he travelled to take up his new role with the club then in the Premier League.
 

But the club have been unable to claim back the money paid for Sala after insurers refused to pay out.
 

Cardiff City FC is suing insurance broker Miller Insurance LLP claiming it owes more than £10m in a High Court bid.
 

The club says the firm failed to say players would not be covered if they were not "timely informed" of new signings such as their new star striker.

 

 

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What a sorry state of affairs ...

Club Statement | 19/01/23

Club News
 37 minutes ago
There has been selective reporting today of the defence filed against the claim the Club has brought against its insurance brokers for doing their job negligently.

The Club did not try to insure Emiliano after the plane crash.

All Cardiff City Football Club staff understood from its broker that all players were insured from the moment they were signed, and the case arises from learning they were not.

It will reply to the allegations made in the defence that are untrue, or portrayed out of context, in the court proceedings and will not litigate this case in the media.

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, Crow said:

What a sorry state of affairs ...

Club Statement | 19/01/23

Club News
 37 minutes ago
There has been selective reporting today of the defence filed against the claim the Club has brought against its insurance brokers for doing their job negligently.

The Club did not try to insure Emiliano after the plane crash.

All Cardiff City Football Club staff understood from its broker that all players were insured from the moment they were signed, and the case arises from learning they were not.

It will reply to the allegations made in the defence that are untrue, or portrayed out of context, in the court proceedings and will not litigate this case in the media.

 

 

 

I thought they tried to claim he wasn't signed?

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