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20 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

And you know all this because.........

 

Hmm a member of the board :rolleyes:

I'm basing it on the statement by the Lowland League from September:

http://slfl.co.uk/selkirks-resignation-what-happens-next/#more-11526

Which says it was the LL Board that made the decision to intrerpret the rules one way rather than a league wide vote on how to handle the Selkirk situation.

Followed up in the new year around all the gossip on here around a rule change in the new year. With I believe HibeeJibee saying that the SFA wouldn't allow it because it was too late in the season.

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58 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

Aye I'm sure Dalbeattie Star are pissing themselves laughing at this point. No many fans o theirs come on here to defend themselves though!!

Pissing themselves with that much laughter that next week's game will be called off due to a flooded pitch!!!!!!!

What's to defend?  Can The Star still not get voted out of the LL if the play-off results go the wrong way??????

In my slightly outsider opinion, only watch The Star if I can't get to the QOS game, the whole Selkirk situation has been badly handled, were the LL clubs opinion asked for or was it the suits and blazers that made the decision?  If Star can still be voted out what's the chances?  Well established club that meet all the critearia. Staying down here its a bit remote and out of the way, Dalbeattie in terms of budget, potential and player attraction will never be the best, do clubs really want to come down here on a Wednesday night or a cold winters day?  Personally I fear  a vote to keep the Star in the LL?????

 

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20 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

...Followed up in the new year around all the gossip on here around a rule change in the new year. With I believe HibeeJibee saying that the SFA wouldn't allow it because it was too late in the season.

There was a poster on the Tony Kempster forum who claimed that the SFA ruled against the rule change after an appeal from an unknown party.

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1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said:

I'm basing it on the statement by the Lowland League from September:

http://slfl.co.uk/selkirks-resignation-what-happens-next/#more-11526

Which says it was the LL Board that made the decision to intrerpret the rules one way rather than a league wide vote on how to handle the Selkirk situation.

Followed up in the new year around all the gossip on here around a rule change in the new year. With I believe HibeeJibee saying that the SFA wouldn't allow it because it was too late in the season.

Yer last post was all aboot criticising ww though. 

I'm only a fan who has nothing to do wi the running of the club so ye must've got yer info from somewhere. 

Theres a good chance if they are EOS next season they'll go doon again going by the competition, do you no think I have a right on here to fight their corner.

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13 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

Yer last post was all aboot criticising ww though. 

I'm only a fan who has nothing to do wi the running of the club so ye must've got yer info from somewhere. 

Theres a good chance if they are EOS next season they'll go doon again going by the competition, do you no think I have a right on here to fight their corner.

I wasn't criticising Whitehill Welfare, I never even mentioned them at all. I was talking about your whataboutery with the Highland League and now using the SPFL as well. I said you should blame Selkirk and the LL clubs who all collectively voted to change the rule in 2019 which turned out to be too late for the SFA.

2 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

At least they aren't constantly complaining about the Highland League and now the the SPFL. Blame Selkirk for starting the season know they were financially screwed, blame the LL clubs for wating until the new year to challenge the LL Board's interpretation of the relegation rules.

 

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8 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

I wasn't criticising Whitehill Welfare, I never even mentioned them at all. I was talking about your whataboutery with the Highland League and now using the SPFL as well. I said you should blame Selkirk and the LL clubs who all collectively voted to change the rule in 2019 which turned out to be too late for the SFA.

 

Ah right like I say I am just a normal fan sticking up for my team. Right or wrong we all have opinions :thumsup2

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13 hours ago, PELE said:

Whitehill shouldn't be relegated. When Selkirk ceased to exist, that should have accounted for the bottom spot. That's what happens in four senior leagues.

Its certainly unfortunate.

Apparently: (1) a club resigning ceases to be a member of the league, but (2) the rules currently say the club finishing 'bottom' of the league - not '16th' - is relegated.

New wording was voted on, in February (IIRC), but wasn't then granted the necessary approval.

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14 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

Ah right like I say I am just a normal fan sticking up for my team. Right or wrong we all have opinions :thumsup2

We're of the same opinion. I've always been of the personal opinion that Selkirk having started the season should be classed as the bottom club.  I thought whoever finished 15th should be voted back in unless the scenario happened where the would of been relegated by the SPFL playoff. The fact the Lowland League voted to change the rule eventually suggests there's the possibility that could still happen.

Now at the end of things though with Whitehill Welfare having a poor season I think they might have a split opinion between what candidate to take.

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I love WW but you can’t help thinking if it was Dalbeattie and Vale of Leithen marooned to the bottom, there wouldn’t be the same scramble to tinker with the rules...

 

Tough one as WW has been a very good member for years... but so have DS, VoL and you could even say Selkirk in years gone by

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3 minutes ago, Spyro said:

I love WW but you can’t help thinking if it was Dalbeattie and Vale of Leithen marooned to the bottom, there wouldn’t be the same scramble to tinker with the rules...

 

Tough one as WW has been a very good member for years... but so have DS, VoL and you could even say Selkirk in years gone by

I think there would of been the same moves made. Keep in mind the Lowland League never really pushed Selkirk too hard.

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4 minutes ago, Spyro said:

I love WW but you can’t help thinking if it was Dalbeattie and Vale of Leithen marooned to the bottom, there wouldn’t be the same scramble to tinker with the rules...

 

Tough one as WW has been a very good member for years... but so have DS, VoL and you could even say Selkirk in years gone by

Wheres the scramble  ?

It's only a fans forum  ?

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5 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

Wheres the scramble  ?

It's only a fans forum  ?

Mid-season rule changes to make sure the 15th team aren’t automatically relegated...

That’s no defence of Selkirk btw, they are the ones who have ballsed this up and caused the problem. 

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10 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

I think there would of been the same moves made. Keep in mind the Lowland League never really pushed Selkirk too hard.

As I posted elsewhere last night the cynic in me thinks the licensing committee are waiting on the green or should I say flood light from Bonnyrigg which is just a matter of time. :P

That way ALL 3 conference champions will be eligible for the LL.  

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3 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

As I posted elsewhere last night the cynic in me thinks the licensing committee are waiting on the green or should I say flood light from Bonnyrigg which is just a matter of time. :P

That way ALL 3 conference champions will be eligible for the LL.  

The SFA Board will have made their decision on Thursday. I reckon they posted their response rather than emailing, so you're waiting on the post during a holiday weekend.

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The SFA Board will have made their decision on Thursday. I reckon they posted their response rather than emailing, so you're waiting on the post during a holiday weekend.
It will be by email from the Licence Dept it seems, so probably Tuesday.

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10 minutes ago, Ross O'Neri said:

I agree that WW should only go down if Cove is promoted.   

The way things stand Ross if Cove win the play off you will go down with us  ? Personally don't think that's right  either ?

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9 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

The way things stand Ross if Cove win the play off you will go down with us  ? Personally don't think that's right  either ?

Sorry Newky your wrong. There is no permutation that will see Star relegated. Also WW aren't relegated either. If there is no licenced club to come up from the east WW survive.

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13 minutes ago, Jerry Macguire said:

Sorry Newky your wrong. There is no permutation that will see Star relegated. Also WW aren't relegated either. If there is no licenced club to come up from the east WW survive.

No need to be sorry but if ww are bottom club then the Star are 2nd bottom therefore trap door opens to let either Albion Rovers or Berwick Rangers in  ? The 3 clubs fighting it out in the East will be licensed that's for sure  ? 

Edit: Totally confused now :blink:

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34 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

No need to be sorry but if ww are bottom club then the Star are 2nd bottom therefore trap door opens to let either Albion Rovers or Berwick Rangers in  ? The 3 clubs fighting it out in the East will be licensed that's for sure  ? 

Edit: Totally confused now :blink:

Your forgetting we only have 15 teams.

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