Moses Supposes Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, Jeff Venom said: There's yer Moses, Duke, and new kyd all "new" members at the end of Oct/start of Nov, all posting the same stuff, in the same style, on the same forum. Probably bliddy furriners as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new kyd in town Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeff Venom said: There's yer Moses, Duke, and new kyd all "new" members at the end of Oct/start of Nov, all posting the same stuff, in the same style, on the same forum. ffs. If I need a stalker can I have you please? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new kyd in town Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 07:47, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: Budget in a couple of days. No overall majority for the SNP so reliant on other party support which won't come from Labour or Conservative and it looks like the Liberal Democrats aren't interested unless independence is taken off the table. So looks like the SNP will have to do whatever the Green Party want. I don't think we will see any changes to tax rates this year but dont expect the changes in thresholds to keep up with Westminster. More money for schools, police, NHS will be announced but I expect services will continue to decline. Also expect another year of underspending far in excess of any 'cuts' in monies received from the UK treasury. More pointless 'guarantees' enshrined in law no doubt as well. Honestly. Who really cares? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: red dotted for calling me m8. green dotted because I'm a nice guy who doesn't hold grudges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanco Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, MixuFixit said: I never understand the whole don't tax-the-rich-or-they'll-leave thing. It always gets said by folk who equate wealth with working hard so why don't we just tell those rich people to work harder to offset the increased tax? People earning £43k aren’t rich. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: The next week the tenth man didn't show up for drinks So the rich guy didn't have a drink at all and the analogy hinges on HMRC beating up folk for their taxes. f**k sake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, blanco said: People earning £43k aren’t rich. The average salary in Scotland is just over £23k so they are in fact rich. Just because they choose to send their sprogs to a private school or go skiing in the Alps in February doesn't change that objective fact. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, virginton said: The average salary in Scotland is just over £23k so they are in fact rich. Just because they choose to send their sprogs to a private school or go skiing in the Alps in February doesn't change that objective fact. People who are on £43k can't afford to send their kids to private school or go skiing -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Binos said: People who are on £43k can't afford to send their kids to private school or go skiing Course they can. All they have to do is give up their Starbucks lattes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Binos said: People who are on £43k can't afford to send their kids to private school or go skiing How much do you think skiing costs? I don't earn £43k, but I'm pretty sure I could afford to go to the Alps once or twice a year if that sort of thing interested me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Hawf the folk that claim you can live a life of luxury on benefits simultaneously claim that 40k+ a year isn’t rich. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 The average salary in Scotland is just over £23k so they are in fact rich. Just because they choose to send their sprogs to a private school or go skiing in the Alps in February doesn't change that objective fact. I would not say it's rich but neither is it scraping things together to make ends meet. The extra tax (which is not a lot at that level) is justified in terms of a progressive tax system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, craigkillie said: How much do you think skiing costs? I don't earn £43k, but I'm pretty sure I could afford to go to the Alps once or twice a year if that sort of thing interested me. You could fucking live half the year in the Alps on that and Dundee High's £13,000 a year. The guy's an indoctrinated idiot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: I would not say it's rich but neither is it scraping things together to make ends meet. The extra tax (which is not a lot at that level) is justified in terms of a progressive tax system. It's the top 8% in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 People earning £43k aren’t rich. It's not "rich" but it's certainly well off. I can support me, my long term ill partner and all the bills including running a car, with a couple of holidays a year on less than that. The only folk struggling to get by on £43K will be moronic offshore workers with a penchant for massive houses they can't afford and ching. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 St Aloysius is about £12k a year, would imagine Hutchie and Glasgow Academy will be around the same. Spose it depends if your £43k person is a single parent or married to one of these poor people you hear about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: I would not say it's rich but neither is it scraping things together to make ends meet. The extra tax (which is not a lot at that level) is justified in terms of a progressive tax system. It's nearly twice the average salary in one of the richest societies in the world. That is absolutely within any credible definition of 'rich'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 By means of comparison, how many people would claim that an average salary of £12,000 is not in fact 'poor' in today's society? That is roughly the equivalent divergence from the average salary as this supposedly 'not rich' figure in the £40ks; government statistics generally view relative poverty as being anything beneath £15k a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 It's the top 8% in Scotland.Do you have a link to that? I don’t disbelieve you, I just find it very surprising. After tax, NI and pension you’re probably talking around £2.5k a month on £43k. Enough to be comfortable for the most part unless you live in Edinburgh (where you’d assume a good chunk of the 8% work). Objectively of course it’s rich, you could live in a modest house in an inexpensive area and be loaded. Given people tend to spend based on their income though, it’s not a huge surprise that uproar happens - it’s not solely greed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 It's fantasy People on 43k a year don't send their children to private schools 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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