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3 hours ago, Mackie The Staggie said:

I've watched enough Indy Cars/Endurance racing to know finishing under yellow sucks and that we would all prefer to finish under green.

If Masi had just restarted the lap with the lapped car in between Max & Lewis then we would have still got the finish under green, I also believe we would have seen a pass for the championship on the last corner.  However what we got was a scenario where the rules were applied in a manner never seen before (trying to recall when they only let a few lapped cars unlap themselves and nothing comes to mind)

Why was it ok for the lapped cars to be cleared from between Max and Lewis, but not Sainz and Max.  Sainz then never had a shot at 2nd place and instead had to contend with trying to get past Stroll and Danny Ric all the while trying to defend from a hard charging Tsunoda (who had a pretty good race tbf). 

it all smacked of creating an ending which was best for entertainment value, rather than applying the rules and regs correctly.

 

 

I agree with all of this.

I hadn't seen people on twitter complaining about the lead Hamilton had being cancelled out by the safety car and I have no idea why anyone here is paying that any attention. It's obviously meaningless.

I also I don't really care about Mercedes crying endlessly because it was fairly clear from Hamilton's actions after the race that he was happy... well, that he accepted what was happened and was fine to congratulate the Verstappens. It's probably easy to be magnanimous about losing a championship in these circumstances when you've already won seven but if any goons complaining about what happened - whether they were watching a race for the first time or not - had any sense they'd follow his example.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Brightside said:

2010 is probably the best title race ever. Four drivers could win it on the last day iirc and Vettel won despite not leading the championship until the last race had ended. A lot of people saying that 2021 is the best title fight ever really must have short memories.

It was a fantastic season. I didn't include it in my title deciders though as the race itself was a bit dull - Vettel just led from start to finish.

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Apparently he wasn’t so magnanimous during the final lap
 
I wouldn't be too harsh over a comment over the radio in the heat of the moment tbh. He was magnanimous enough ince out of the car.

That Guardian article, however, is the biggest load of ill informed bilge I have ever read in my life.
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Mercedes are acuity team
Hamilton is a c**t that has never driven with anything other than advantages
f**k Formula 1 if they kowtow to the cuntiest c***s ever.
Even Mike (the *** that’s no fun) Schumacher drove “weaker” cars, Lewis is a spoiled toddler used to getting everything his own way.

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35 minutes ago, Raidernation said:

Mercedes are acuity team
Hamilton is a c**t that has never driven with anything other than advantages
f**k Formula 1 if they kowtow to the cuntiest c***s ever.
Even Mike (the *** that’s no fun) Schumacher drove “weaker” cars, Lewis is a spoiled toddler used to getting everything his own way.

What language is this mate? Just so I can select the correct one in Google Translate 

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57 minutes ago, Raidernation said:

Mercedes are acuity team
Hamilton is a c**t that has never driven with anything other than advantages
f**k Formula 1 if they kowtow to the cuntiest c***s ever.
Even Mike (the *** that’s no fun) Schumacher drove “weaker” cars, Lewis is a spoiled toddler used to getting everything his own way.

He has had weaker cars, tbf. There were a couple of years with McLaren and the first with Mercedes where the car was well short of the front runners. He still won races in every single season. 

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The hilarious bit about that is the assertion that Verstappen drives like a c**t and only gets away with it because he's white, totally overlooking the year Hamilton punted Massa off every single time Massa attempted a pass and never got penalised for it once.

They're all prepared to get their elbows out and drive like wankers when it's absolutely necessary. It's not like Hamilton is the exception. He was happy to run his own fucking team mate off the track to prevent Rosberg getting the better of him.  I still think he was entirely in the wrong in Silverstone, and I think had he done what he did to Max in a different era he'd have had an utterly incensed opponent marching down the pitlane looking to rip his fucking head off a la Schumi in Belgium, and quite likely have been punished at any venue other than his home race.

This is a bit like when the Old Firm fans moan that officiating is biased against them despite having 50+ major trophies. Hamilton, 7 time World Champion, victimised and never given a fair shake because of his race. Fucking bonkers.

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6 hours ago, Thorongil said:

F1 hasn’t been any good since the days of Prost and Senna. That’s my view. 

And Lewis Hamilton is, and always has been, an arsehole. 

The funny thing here is that Senna , Lewis' absolute idol and person whose flag he is happy to adopt to ingratiate himself to all Senna's fans, would 100% have been the Max Verstappen character in this year's championship.

Not to mention the stuff that went on in the Prost/Senna title battles makes this year's 'farcical ending' seem like nothing more than a playground scuffle. 

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Some of the reaction about this has been pure hyperbole and awful takes. If I see another 'it's like being so many goals up in football' tweet or analogy...

Safety cars are a ballache for leaders with big leads and that isn't the longest lead wiped out. Infact the shortness of the lead was part of the problem, Hamilton couldn't pit without losing track position to Verstappen.

I kind of feel for Masi slightly all in all. I understand bunching the cars can aid the marshals deal with an incident but for Latifi's accident it felt that it wasn't consistently needed. I wonder if you could, where appropriate, let lapped cars through as the incident is being cleared up.  A "lapped cars may overtake safety car and unlap themselves except turns 12-15 where the incident is" could have potentially sorted that earlier in safety car period and stop the needless SC laps whilst the field arranges. I realise FIA's focus is on clearing the incident but you theoretically can leave it to drivers and teams to work out if they were eligible to unlap.

The main issue in sorting this out is that, for once, Red Bull and Verstappen did nothing wrong.

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