The F1 Thread

[Binos]

If they overturn that finish and celebrations

The sport borders on farce 

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1 minute ago, Binos said:

If they overturn that finish and celebrations

The sport borders on farce 

At least Mercedes will get to use their printed t-shirts

[Mark Connolly]

All the Merc fans who have been watching since the 70s have never seen officiating like this, having apparently forgotten Prost-Senna.

[peasy23]

Is there any grounds for appeal on this? It’s funny as f**k but do Mercedes have a right for appeal and could potentially cause this to be overturned? 

They can certainly ask questions about how Masi interpreted the rules at the end of the race. I don't see how they can change the result though as none of that was of Max or Red Bull's doing.

[doulikefish]

Bottas getting his constructors bonus and doesn't care

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

I like that Mercedes have their own barrister that they brought along to the race.

[Derry Alli]

Terrific scenes. Enjoy your Christmas, Mr Hamilton. 

[Ginaro]

1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said:

The whole unlapping thing is an absolute nonsense though. Maybe they'll finally look at it

Allowing cars to unlap is absolutely necessary because the SC artificially puts a portion of the field a lap behind the cars ahead. Take Lando for example, before the SC he was 10s behind Gasly but once picked up by the SC was almost a lap behind Gasly who was now at the back of the SC queue. Also means you don't have lapped cars interrupting fights between the leaders. 

1 hour ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

The free tyre change under a red flag needs to go as well.

Maybe, but then you have safety issues as a red flag is usually as a result of a crash so there'll be debris on the tyres. And what if you were just about to make a pit stop to replace worn tyres before a red flag, do you have to restart on the same tyres and then have a pit stop under green which basically puts you at the back? 

1 hour ago, virginton said:

On what grounds and what would be the race result? 

The bottom line is that Hamilton had track position and failed to defend it.  Wolff spent the race lobbying the race director and finally got told to f**k off. 

Toto should've been told to f**k off after he was moaning to Masi not to throw a yellow before the VSC for Giovinazzi, no need to even get involved there.

1 hour ago, cdhafc1874 said:

Surely Hamilton would've been able to hold off or overtake Verstappen if he'd pitted for softs too when Latifi binned it?

The problem is if HAM pits first and VER doesn't then you might lose track position so you're screwed if the race finishes under SC (would need to work out the gap versus time lost pitting under SC), especially as Mercedes were probably thinking that lapped cars overtaking in theory means less chance of the race restarting...

39 minutes ago, charger29 said:

One thing I would say is even if they let the other cars through, surely that would have only taken a handful more seconds and they would have raced the last lap anyway?

If Masi had let the five cars through at the other side of the track then all cars would've got through there, but at turn 9 it was too late to do so before the final lap.

[Iminavest]

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

Strange how everyone wanted this to be decided on the track is mad that Masi used his discretion to decide the championship on the track

[Benjamin_Nevis]

Sumptuous.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

If you can't hold a last lap lead in the best f1 car you don't deserve to win the race.

[Mr. Brightside]

This is just going to be a bad look for F1 whatever the result tbh.

[Mark Connolly]

11 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

Strange how everyone wanted this to be decided on the track is mad that Masi used his discretion to decide the championship on the track

[JamesP_81]

3 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

That's the exact tweet I'd been having a look for but couldn't Wade through all the Hamilton fanboy tears on mercs Twitter page

[Mark Connolly]

The fact that Mercedes brought a lawyer with them means there was no way they were letting it be decided on track unless their man won.

[Binos]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Brightside said:

This is just going to be a bad look for F1 whatever the result tbh.

It's hardly a bad look, it's the most interest they've had in the sport in 20 years 

However if they overturn the result everyone who has tuned in will just think the sport is a farce and turn off again 

[Benjamin_Nevis]

It's hardly a bad look, it's the most interest they've had in the sport in 20 years 
However if they overturn the result everyone who has tuned in will just think the sport is a farce and turn off again 

Yup, pretty much this. Why waste 2 hours watching it if teams are going to go mewling to Race Control with a fucking barrister [emoji23]

[afc_36_0]

Not everyone will agree with decisions and some ludicrous ones have been made but u shouldn’t be able to change the outcome once its over. Puts the whole sport into disrepute.

[Iminavest]