vikingTON Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Schumacher largely won the 2000 Championship because the McLaren-Mercedes engine couldn't go two minutes without blowing up IIRC. Edited September 22, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Certainly in the early races they were being hampered by reliability big time but I don’t think the Ferrari was perfect either, compared to the following years. The improvement in reliability of cars from about 2005 until now has been unreal, I’ve been watching race replays from the mid to late 90s and early 00s and every other race would see multiple engines going up in a puff of smoke- I guess having a finite amount of them to use these days means they’ve actually worked on making them better and not just treating them like a disposable commodity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Hakkinen had 3 retirements in 2000 due to mechanical/engine failures (Australia, Brazil and USA). Schumacher had two, plus another two due to racing incidents. Mid-season, Schumacher had 4 retirements in 5 races. This was the hallmark of the season though. McLaren started unreliably and Ferrari took a big lead. McLaren developed and fixed their errors, and took the lead. Ferrari then responded and took the title. Fantastic season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Hakkinen had 3 retirements in 2000 due to mechanical/engine failures (Australia, Brazil and USA). Schumacher had two, plus another two due to racing incidents. Mid-season, Schumacher had 4 retirements in 5 races. This was the hallmark of the season though. McLaren started unreliably and Ferrari took a big lead. McLaren developed and fixed their errors, and took the lead. Ferrari then responded and took the title. Fantastic season. Plus a disgruntled Mercedes employee who prevented a probable 1-2 (was 2-3 instead). DC also had an engine blow in Australia, was DSQ for an illegal front wing in Brazil, got a stop-go for mechanics on the grid in Canada, involved in the big crash in Italy (should've been restarted IMO), and jumped the start at Indy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I think you're mixing up Hakkinen with Villeneuve. Villeneuve was in that crash in 2001 and his wheel killed a marshal. He lost about a second a lap after that, and was never the same again. Hakkinen underwent a similar drop-off but in 2001, after his kid was born. He was fast in 98, 99 and 2000 then suddenly lost speed. In 2000 Hakkinen got 5 pole positions, 9 fastest laps and 4 wins. He was ahead of Schumacher after Belgium (and that overtake...) and looked like he was on course to win a third title in a row. Then Schumacher found something and won the last 4 races in a row, and took the title. It remains one of my favourite seasons of all time due to the ding-dong nature of the title fight. Sadly the documentary glossed over the season and hardly mentioned the rest. Hakkinen had a huge crash of his own that day, and got a concussion from it iirc. That, combined with being a father did for his motivation and he quit at the end of that season.As awful as that crash was, Jacques Villeneuve's motivation disappeared waaaaay earlier than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Weather looking pretty bad for Saturday. Heavy rain from Friday night until around the start of quali is predicted just now. With the track prone to flooding as well things are looking a bit up in the air. Sunday looks a bit better with light rain possible.Does this all make it less likely for Max to take a new engine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Haas bringing back the banter next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Villeneuve's career is a real oddity. Arrived in 96 from Carts with a pretty big reputation. He was very fast from the outset and finished runner up to the established team leader in his first season. In his second he took the title - though Patrick Head said that he made "heavy weather" of it and should have won it more easily with the car he had. People really thought he would be a challenger for years to come. For me his best season was 98. The Williams car was a dog with a sewing machine for an engine but he drove the wheels off it. After this it all went a bit wrong. He moved to BAR in 99, hoping to do what Schumacher had done at Ferrari. But the car was a midfield car and never really got any better. By the end of 2003 after 5 years in the midfield, nobody was scared of him any more. The 2001 accident speeded up his descent. He ended up at Renault and Sauber but was a spent force by then. The sliding doors moment came for him twice. he could have replaced David Coulthard ar Mclaren for the 99 season. Imagine that as a line-up - peak Hakkinen and Vulleneuve. He also could have moved in 2001 to Ferrari or McLaren. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Miami GP announced for the 8th of May 2022. Everyone excited for another shitey street circuit? Thought not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr. Brightside said: Miami GP announced for the 8th of May 2022. Everyone excited for another shitey street circuit? Thought not. They are the worst. Boring to watch, the drivers don't like them. I could do without Monaco as well - despite the alleged glamour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mr. Brightside said: Miami GP announced for the 8th of May 2022. Everyone excited for another shitey street circuit? Thought not. Around the hard rock stadium hopefully not a re run of a Las Vegas hotel car park But I've pencilled it in to attend Edited September 23, 2021 by doulikefish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mr. Brightside said: Miami GP announced for the 8th of May 2022. Everyone excited for another shitey street circuit? Thought not. Baku's a street circuit and is better than gubbins 'traditional' circuits like Silverstone or (less traditional) Barcelona. Edited September 23, 2021 by vikingTON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_36_0 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Miami GP announced for the 8th of May 2022. Everyone excited for another shitey street circuit? Thought not.Looks better than jeddah tbf, but then so does cowdenbeath racewall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 15 hours ago, virginton said: Baku's a street circuit and is better than gubbins 'traditional' circuits like Silverstone or (less traditional) Barcelona. That's a good point. Baku is better than most traditional circuits. Barcelona and the Hungaroring spring to mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Gary Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Does Lewis get a penalty for running over his mechanic or is it only a safety issue if it's another team? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 A power unit change means Verstappen will start at the back of the grid this weekend. Apparently this also means he will serve his three place grid penalty for the Monza incident in Austin in two weeks time (not sure if this is genuine, though). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 4 hours ago, #Gary said: Does Lewis get a penalty for running over his mechanic or is it only a safety issue if it's another team? 10s stop-go for Max, I think… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Apparently this also means he will serve his three place grid penalty for the Monza incident in Austin in two weeks time (not sure if this is genuine, though).It’s not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Looks like we may have qualifying tomorrow morning before the race. Can’t see any running at all today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Just now, IainMorton said: Looks like we may have qualifying tomorrow morning before the race. Can’t see any running at all today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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