afc_36_0 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Very clearly a racing incident with no one party more to blame than the other. However, using the Horner's argument from Silverstone, at no point was Max ahead there. Correct, if roles were reversed does anyone think verstappen would have left room there? I think lewis might have backed out if he was in verstappen’s shoes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, afc_36_0 said: Correct, if roles were reversed does anyone think verstappen would have left room there? I think lewis might have backed out if he was in verstappen’s shoes. Aye, just like he backed out at Silverstone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Questionable move by Hamilton as he came out of the pit lane, questionable move by Verstappen on the chicane. Not sure how either is more to blame there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 If anyone is at fault it’s Lewis but it’s marginal, basically the very definition of a racing incident, they were both at it. I guess it shouldn’t make TOO much of a difference with Max as I think it was pretty much a certainty that they’d be taking an engine penalty at Sochi, this all but settles that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_36_0 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Aye, just like he backed out at Silverstone.He backed out at imola, also backed out at turn 4 today. Max never backs out which is his only real downfall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, afc_36_0 said: He backed out at imola, also backed out at turn 4 today. Max never backs out which is his only real downfall. He also didn't back out today. When should Max have backed out? When he was clearly ahead at Silverstone? When he was alongside today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_36_0 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Max knew that move was risky, he also knew if hamilton didn’t back out he’d be taking them both out. In other news mazepin making an absolute c**t of it once again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Why did Hamilton go so far across when he came out of the pits? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 If anyone is at fault it’s Lewis but it’s marginal, basically the very definition of a racing incident, they were both at it. I guess it shouldn’t make TOO much of a difference with Max as I think it was pretty much a certainty that they’d be taking an engine penalty at Sochi, this all but settles that. Sochi is the most boring track on the calendar, worse than Monaco. Passing is severely limited so making up the places the penalty cost him will hurt him. He probably needs to qualify fastest and hope Hamilton isn't any higher than 3rd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iminavest Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Sochi seems like the ideal time for Perez to 'do a Bottas' at the first corner now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 There's something of Verstappen that remains childish and whilst that might seem to be advantageous, it does come with an elevated level of risk. That he walked away from that without any apparent esprit de corps looks more than a bit poor for him. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 It's perfectly possible to be on and stay on the outside of the first part of the chicane, then be on the inside for the second part as a result. It's a complete farce that there's a penalty for this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, sophia said: There's something of Verstappen that remains childish and whilst that might seem to be advantageous, it does come with an elevated level of risk. That he walked away from that without any apparent esprit de corps looks more than a bit poor for him. wut. Hamilton was moving inside the car and even trying to reverse it out of the gravel (while Verstappen was still getting out of his car, as well). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr. Brightside said: wut. Hamilton was moving inside the car and even trying to reverse it out of the gravel (while Verstappen was still getting out of his car, as well). I know that as I have a reasonable power of observation. There was something quite off about this and other incidents that I feel very uncomfortable with. I say this as an admirer of him in general terms. As Coulthard said, if there was a wall, he might have another idea on his approach. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, sophia said: I know that as I have a reasonable power of observation. There was something quite off about this and other incidents that I feel very uncomfortable with. So what are you on about then? What "other incidents" would that be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, sophia said: As Coulthard said, if there was a wall, he might have another idea on his approach. If there had been 3 potholes and a contraflow because there was a cow on the road, he might have had another idea on his approach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr. Brightside said: So what are you on about then? What "other incidents" would that be? They are a matter of record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: If there had been 3 potholes and a contraflow because there was a cow on the road, he might have had another idea on his approach. Well, that's just ridiculous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, sophia said: They are a matter of record. Minter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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