Albion v Cowden

[iateallthepies]

Best pie I have tasted this season. That was the highlight of the day sadly. Crazy penalty to give away.Good surging run by Miller to earn ours. Wish he would do that more often.  Renton must have won about thirty balls in the air and I don't think one was picked up by a colleague The first time I noticed Buchanan was playing was when he was sent off.Hopefully Cox is ok for next week

[Drifter]

A few points to raise and reply to and as I can't be arsed copying and pasting previous posts...

Blue Oktober, was a shame to miss you again but I'm definitely living up to my username of being a drifter as I spend most matches I attend mooching from one part of the ground to another. Pre-match we had a couple in the St Andrews pub not far from Sunnyside Road where we only had time for a quick one on the way back to the train back to Glasgow and our connection home (both of which we typically and drunkenly just about made), then spent the first half near the club shop towards the end Cowden were attacking to offer a bit of vocal support, then half-time on the halfway line  chatting to Al (who forgot me early Christmas present, the forgetful bugger!), and after a drift on to the side of the pitch and down the tunnel (it had to be done!). Then the second half was spent behind the goal where Scotty introduced himself, had a chat and pointed out a number of the other loyal away support that come from all over. One thing we all have in common, I summised, other than watching Cowdenbeath, is that we mustn't be right in the head to actually enjoy that, but we did and we do!

I'll hopefully be back up for the cup game against Sevco but wit the amount of not-rights that will be loitering around the town and ground that day, I reckon if I do get there then I'll be spending pre-match drinking on the train and in Edinburgh or Queensferry, before hoping to make a quick escape without having to cross paths with any knuckle-draggin sorts.

And thanks for your comments about the support being appreciated, but they really aren't necessary. I think it proves that after my first game in March, after now attending eight Cowden games in as many months, other than the financial outlay, it really is such a pleasurable was to spend a Saturday afternoon, travelling to places I'd never probably dream of visiting if it wasn't for football and, more specifically these days, Cowden. In fact, all I ask for is that if anyone has a Cowdenbeath shirt (home or away; player shirt or replica) from last season -and my first watching the club) - that I could buy off them (or make a donation to Club 135), or even an uhlsport jacket/traiining top or what-have-yer, then please let me know.

For my final post I might as well start that separate message because, if true, and the fact it hasn't been raised yet then it definitely deserves to be, and not something that should be brushed under the carpet. Especially as it could impact my feelings towards the club if the guilty party is indeed guilty and the correct course of action doesn't follow... (or follow, follow as the accused might say!)

[Drifter]

I have to say that if the following accusation posted on the  Albion Rovers forum, by a fella called Chris, is true then I hope the punishment delivered is a deserved one.

Chris said:
Robbie Buchanan who was sent off for cowden was heard shouting ****** c**** as he walked down the tunnel. Totally unacceptable. From what i hear cowden BOD are embarrassed by it and are dealing with it internally

ProRege replied:

Am I the only person that finds sectarian abuse unacceptable? Probably practising for the lower leagues or is that being unfair to the lower leagues

 

Rhythemisarover added:

No Prorege, you are not the only person. I think it is out of date and stupid. I saw the player mouthing off as he headed towards the tunnel but couldn't hear what he said. If he did say those words then he deserves to have his backside booted at the very least. I did see Terry having a go at him verbally once he was in the tunnel which is not like him, so must have been bad.

 

Now I have no reason to believe that the bloke making the accusation has any reason to make this up, especially with the fact he mentions the fact Cowden's board are embarrassed by the alleged incident and will be hoping to take action (If true then I hope they do), and the other fella mentioning the out-of-character reaction of Terry (not sure who he is...?).

 

I'm certainly not one for accusing somebody of being guilty before they are found guilty of what they've been accused, but please now let me talk hypothetically. 

 

If Robbie Buchanan has made the comments mentioned towards the start of this post then I would like, and expect, to see a certain reaction from Cowdenbeath Football Club.

 

As someone who travels to games from outside of Scotland, I do love the game north of the border - as do many friends now who accompany me for certain trips - but many, many others still say to me... "Ahhh, I can't be bothered with Scottish football because of all that Old Firm sectarian nonsense". I try to tell em that it is mostly confined to the Weegie wrong-uns but I know I'm talking rubbish and there is definitely an under-current throughout the game and is a cancerous element to football in Scotland that needs to be kicked out.

 

If Buchanan is guilty of the accused comments then I'd seriously like to see Cowdenbeath Football Club take a stance and action that would be noticed in the world of football and hopefully act as a catalyst for others to follow in future and maybe, finally, improve the image and environment of a game that's been on its knees for too many years now... and not just brushed under the tainted tartan carpet like countless similar incidents at numerous clubs over the years.

 

Many outsiders who chat to me about Cowdenbeath, eventually, might mention the fact the kit's a bit like Sevco's and the town is full of Sevco fans. I try to tell them otherwise and now, knowing the socialist/communist leanings associated with the history of this proud mining town, and meeting many match-going fans who couldn't give two farts for Sevco, Celtic or any of the sectarian pish. People who know, know. Of course there's elements of wrong uns from all 'divides'. But to me and many people I talk to down south who can't really see beyond the sectarianism sadly associated with elements of the Scottish game, it's something that tarnishes fitba on a level that racism once did during the dark days of the 1970s and 80s. Where it was almost accepted and wen mostly unquestioned and unchallenged.

 

So going back to the accusation made against Buchanan, if guilty I would hope to see Cowdenbeath Football Club and its directors act in a way that would befit the town's proud history as one that doesn't take any rubbish and is willing to stand up to those who take the pish.

 

If guilty, the club should cancel the player's contract and show that, along with the anti-racism campaigns that are now thankfully a regular feature of football, should show that the ultimate act of condoning such blatant sectarian behaviour whilst representing Cowdenbeath Football Club will not be tolerated in any way. To not take such action, if the comments were made, would only act as the club seemingly condoning sectarianism, or not truly caring about what impact it has on Scottish football. The old turn a blind eye approach that often seems to strike during such times with many clubs.

 

Now if you think I'm going a bit over the top then imagine if a footballer left the field shouting racist abuse which was heard by many around him in the ground. He would be rightly given the boot from the club who would not want to be associated with such an odious character.

 

If Buchanan is guilty and the club doesn't take serious action, then I seriously hope that somebody in training - Robbie Deas maybe - gives the lad a good kicking in training, with Jordan Sheerin delivering a follow-up body-slam. But seriously, without serious action being taken by the club then Scotland and Scottish football will never rid itself of this cancerous disease that really doesn't have any place in what is now a multi-cultural society. Looking in from the outside (but probably understand the history of the politics more than most who deliver such bile), it really is pathetic. It's like watching Bernard Manning bang on about 'Pakis', or Alf Garnett lamenting the amount of 'niggers' in society.

 

Just writing those words makes me feel uneasy and I hope it makes the reader also feel the same way looking at them, because - honestly - that's essentially all this sectarian bollicks is, and must be eradicated if the Scottish game wants to catch up with the rest of world once more.

 

As a say, the above is hypothetical and would apply to any club and player if such claims were made and proven against them, so not just a Cowdenbeath issue as it affects most clubs most seasons probably, but the actions of the board - if Buchanan said what he was accused of saying - could certainly help improve and enhance an already intriguing image of a great football club.

 

Alternatively, if the right action wouldn't occur at a club if the accused is guilty, then I would expect a lot of outside sympathisers would certainly look at that club differently.

 

And I'm not even pished writing this, just talking from the heart after a long day and enjoyable weekend making an eight-hour round trip watching Cowden, and as someone passionate about and likes to act on any bullying/prejudice and misconception I witness in society!

 

Up the Coos!

 

[The Pastmaster]

Good post.  BTW the `Terry` referred to is Terry Gillooly, Rovers Safety Officer, and yes, not at all like him to get involved.

[The Minertaur]

Hopefully Buchanan misses a few games anyway as he adds nothing to the team IMO.

[Aloysius Snuffleupagus]

11 hours ago, Drifter said:

Massive, well-written post

 

I agree with all you say.

However, Buchanan was reacting to a totally crazy shout of "I hope you die" or similar from one of our lot.  That doesn't give him a 'blank cheque' to say what he likes but  perhaps explains why he reacted so badly.

[Aberdeen Cowden]

12 hours ago, Drifter said:

I have to say that if the following accusation posted on the  Albion Rovers forum, by a fella called Chris, is true then I hope the punishment delivered is a deserved one.

Chris said:
Robbie Buchanan who was sent off for cowden was heard shouting ****** c**** as he walked down the tunnel. Totally unacceptable. From what i hear cowden BOD are embarrassed by it and are dealing with it internally

ProRege replied:

Am I the only person that finds sectarian abuse unacceptable? Probably practising for the lower leagues or is that being unfair to the lower leagues

 

Rhythemisarover added:

No Prorege, you are not the only person. I think it is out of date and stupid. I saw the player mouthing off as he headed towards the tunnel but couldn't hear what he said. If he did say those words then he deserves to have his backside booted at the very least. I did see Terry having a go at him verbally once he was in the tunnel which is not like him, so must have been bad.

 

Now I have no reason to believe that the bloke making the accusation has any reason to make this up, especially with the fact he mentions the fact Cowden's board are embarrassed by the alleged incident and will be hoping to take action (If true then I hope they do), and the other fella mentioning the out-of-character reaction of Terry (not sure who he is...?).

 

I'm certainly not one for accusing somebody of being guilty before they are found guilty of what they've been accused, but please now let me talk hypothetically. 

 

If Liam Buchanan has made the comments mentioned towards the start of this post then I would like, and expect, to see a certain reaction from Cowdenbeath Football Club.

 

As someone who travels to games from outside of Scotland, I do love the game north of the border - as do many friends now who accompany me for certain trips - but many, many others still say to me... "Ahhh, I can't be bothered with Scottish football because of all that Old Firm sectarian nonsense". I try to tell em that it is mostly confined to the Weegie wrong-uns but I know I'm talking rubbish and there is definitely an under-current throughout the game and is a cancerous element to football in Scotland that needs to be kicked out.

 

If Buchanan is guilty of the accused comments then I'd seriously like to see Cowdenbeath Football Club take a stance and action that would be noticed in the world of football and hopefully act as a catalyst for others to follow in future and maybe, finally, improve the image and environment of a game that's been on its knees for too many years now... and not just brushed under the tainted tartan carpet like countless similar incidents at numerous clubs over the years.

 

Many outsiders who chat to me about Cowdenbeath, eventually, might mention the fact the kit's a bit like Sevco's and the town is full of Sevco fans. I try to tell them otherwise and now, knowing the socialist/communist leanings associated with the history of this proud mining town, and meeting many match-going fans who couldn't give two farts for Sevco, Celtic or any of the sectarian pish. People who know, know. Of course there's elements of wrong uns from all 'divides'. But to me and many people I talk to down south who can't really see beyond the sectarianism sadly associated with elements of the Scottish game, it's something that tarnishes fitba on a level that racism once did during the dark days of the 1970s and 80s. Where it was almost accepted and wen mostly unquestioned and unchallenged.

 

So going back to the accusation made against Buchanan, if guilty I would hope to see Cowdenbeath Football Club and its directors act in a way that would befit the town's proud history as one that doesn't take any rubbish and is willing to stand up to those who take the pish.

 

If guilty, the club should cancel the player's contract and show that, along with the anti-racism campaigns that are now thankfully a regular feature of football, should show that the ultimate act of condoning such blatant sectarian behaviour whilst representing Cowdenbeath Football Club will not be tolerated in any way. To not take such action, if the comments were made, would only act as the club seemingly condoning sectarianism, or not truly caring about what impact it has on Scottish football. The old turn a blind eye approach that often seems to strike during such times with many clubs.

 

Now if you think I'm going a bit over the top then imagine if a footballer left the field shouting racist abuse which was heard by many around him in the ground. He would be rightly given the boot from the club who would not want to be associated with such an odious character.

 

If Buchanan is guilty and the club doesn't take serious action, then I seriously hope that somebody in training - Robbie Deas maybe - gives the lad a good kicking in training, with Jordan Sheerin delivering a follow-up body-slam. But seriously, without serious action being taken by the club then Scotland and Scottish football will never rid itself of this cancerous disease that really doesn't have any place in what is now a multi-cultural society. Looking in from the outside (but probably understand the history of the politics more than most who deliver such bile), it really is pathetic. It's like watching Bernard Manning bang on about 'Pakis', or Alf Garnett lamenting the amount of 'niggers' in society.

 

Just writing those words makes me feel uneasy and I hope it makes the reader also feel the same way looking at them, because - honestly - that's essentially all this sectarian bollicks is, and must be eradicated if the Scottish game wants to catch up with the rest of world once more.

 

As a say, the above is hypothetical and would apply to any club and player if such claims were made and proven against them, so not just a Cowdenbeath issue as it affects most clubs most seasons probably, but the actions of the board - if Buchanan said what he was accused of saying - could certainly help improve and enhance an already intriguing image of a great football club.

 

Alternatively, if the right action wouldn't occur at a club if the accused is guilty, then I would expect a lot of outside sympathisers would certainly look at that club differently.

 

And I'm not even pished writing this, just talking from the heart after a long day and enjoyable weekend making an eight-hour round trip watching Cowden, and as someone passionate about and likes to act on any bullying/prejudice and misconception I witness in society!

 

Up the Coos!

 

The football authorities took no action against Cove players and officials after the stuff they came out with following their playoff defeat. I never heard what Buchanan said but we’ll just have to wait and see.

[SimonLichtie]

30 minutes ago, Aberdeen Cowden said:

The football authorities took no action against Cove players and officials after the stuff they came out with following their playoff defeat. I never heard what Buchanan said but we’ll just have to wait and see.

Did Cove players/ officials come out with sectarian comments after the play off defeat?

Regardless, I don't hugely see how it's relevant to this? Surely this discussion is about what Cowden should do, IF it is true he called opposition fans ****** b*****ds, which doesn't have anything to do with the SFA etc?

[Aberdeen Cowden]

45 minutes ago, SimonLichtie said:

Did Cove players/ officials come out with sectarian comments after the play off defeat?

Regardless, I don't hugely see how it's relevant to this? Surely this discussion is about what Cowden should do, IF it is true he called opposition fans ****** b*****ds, which doesn't have anything to do with the SFA etc?

Cove player(s) were shouting abuse at everyone as they came off the park and everyone knows what their manager said in his radio interview. I never heard what was said on Saturday, find it baffling though. Just hope someone misheard.

i

[CowdenLoyal]

Shouting sectarian abuse is obviously wrong but telling someone to die is equally abhorrent, if true.

I don't understand why he'd shout a sectarian slur at an Albion Rovers supporter though. Something very odd about the whole thing.

[Muzza81]

1 minute ago, CowdenLoyal said:

Shouting sectarian abuse is obviously wrong but telling someone to die is equally abhorrent, if true.

I don't understand why he'd shout a sectarian slur at an Albion Rovers supporter though. Something very odd about the whole thing.

Yeah, it’s a very strange thing to come out with (if true).

[The_Pit_Owns]

15 hours ago, Drifter said:

If Liam Buchanan has made the comments mentioned towards the start of this post then I would like, and expect, to see a certain reaction from Cowdenbeath Football Club.

I don't care what Liam Buchanan says or does.

That should be Raith Rovers problem, not Cowdenbeath's.

[Drifter]

3 minutes ago, The_Pit_Owns said:

I don't care what Liam Buchanan says or does.

That should be Raith Rovers problem, not Cowdenbeath's.

Haha, oops... and apologies to Liam for that one! Still not quite with it on the old names front yet

 

[big al]

For me, shouting ‘I hope you die’ is as bad as calling someone a sectarian name.

both wrong, of course.

if any of this is true. 

[PELE]

4 hours ago, CowdenLoyal said:

Shouting sectarian abuse is obviously wrong but telling someone to die is equally abhorrent, if true.

I don't understand why he'd shout a sectarian slur at an Albion Rovers supporter though. Something very odd about the whole thing.

He is probably a Sevco fan.

Sevco fans think anyone from Coatbridge is a Celtic fan and anyone from neighbouring Airdrie is a Sevco fan. 

 Coatbridge has always been thought of as a 'Celtic area'.

[cowdenbeath]

15 minutes ago, PELE said:

He is probably a Sevco fan.

Sevco fans think anyone from Coatbridge is a Celtic fan and anyone from neighbouring Airdrie is a Sevco fan. 

 Coatbridge has always been thought of as a 'Celtic area'.

I spotted a Celtic shop in the town centre on Saturday think only that and Greggs were the only two shops which had customers. A depressing Main Street if I ever seen one even makes our one look alright

[Muzza81]

32 minutes ago, PELE said:

He is probably a Sevco fan.

Sevco fans think anyone from Coatbridge is a Celtic fan and anyone from neighbouring Airdrie is a Sevco fan. 

 Coatbridge has always been thought of as a 'Celtic area'.

Everything that’s wrong with Scottish football right there sadly. Really poor from Buchanan (if it’s happened) but it should be dealt with internally and we move on. 

[big al]

8 minutes ago, Muzza81 said:

Everything that’s wrong with Scottish football right there sadly. Really poor from Buchanan (if it’s happened) but it should be dealt with internally and we move on. 

Maybe not everything, you forgot the lack of technical ability!

[Blue Oktober]

32 minutes ago, big al said:

Maybe not everything, you forgot the lack of technical ability!

Al once again spot on I spent nearly 20 year youth coaching  & depressingly no emphasis or focus on core skills, & real development the young players who do succeed do so despite the system not because of its existance. 

[Blue Oktober]

On ‎03‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 00:16, Drifter said:

A few points to raise and reply to and as I can't be arsed copying and pasting previous posts...

Blue Oktober, was a shame to miss you again but I'm definitely living up to my username of being a drifter as I spend most matches I attend mooching from one part of the ground to another. Pre-match we had a couple in the St Andrews pub not far from Sunnyside Road where we only had time for a quick one on the way back to the train back to Glasgow and our connection home (both of which we typically and drunkenly just about made), then spent the first half near the club shop towards the end Cowden were attacking to offer a bit of vocal support, then half-time on the halfway line  chatting to Al (who forgot me early Christmas present, the forgetful bugger!), and after a drift on to the side of the pitch and down the tunnel (it had to be done!). Then the second half was spent behind the goal where Scotty introduced himself, had a chat and pointed out a number of the other loyal away support that come from all over. One thing we all have in common, I summised, other than watching Cowdenbeath, is that we mustn't be right in the head to actually enjoy that, but we did and we do!

I'll hopefully be back up for the cup game against Sevco but wit the amount of not-rights that will be loitering around the town and ground that day, I reckon if I do get there then I'll be spending pre-match drinking on the train and in Edinburgh or Queensferry, before hoping to make a quick escape without having to cross paths with any knuckle-draggin sorts.

And thanks for your comments about the support being appreciated, but they really aren't necessary. I think it proves that after my first game in March, after now attending eight Cowden games in as many months, other than the financial outlay, it really is such a pleasurable was to spend a Saturday afternoon, travelling to places I'd never probably dream of visiting if it wasn't for football and, more specifically these days, Cowden. In fact, all I ask for is that if anyone has a Cowdenbeath shirt (home or away; player shirt or replica) from last season -and my first watching the club) - that I could buy off them (or make a donation to Club 135), or even an uhlsport jacket/traiining top or what-have-yer, then please let me know.

For my final post I might as well start that separate message because, if true, and the fact it hasn't been raised yet then it definitely deserves to be, and not something that should be brushed under the carpet. Especially as it could impact my feelings towards the club if the guilty party is indeed guilty and the correct course of action doesn't follow... (or follow, follow as the accused might say!)

DM me @Drifter on this point mate