Kelheart Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 So how are all the teams that entered this years EOS enjoying or not enjoying the season so far ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, Kelheart said: So how are all the teams that entered this years EOS enjoying or not enjoying the season so far ???? Been like a reboot for camelon and enjoyed it so far. Think it was right time for change and I think over time it will hopefully get better. We've done well in cupsome. We are on our way to top 5 finish. Got east south shield to look forward to and hopefully a win to get us to scottish. As a one time pyramidsceptic I'm glad we made the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Kelheart said: So how are all the teams that entered this years EOS enjoying or not enjoying the season so far ???? Mmmmmm yeh loving every minute so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 4 hours ago, AlanCamelonfan said: Been like a reboot for camelon and enjoyed it so far. Think it was right time for change and I think over time it will hopefully get better. We've done well in cupsome. We are on our way to top 5 finish. Got east south shield to look forward to and hopefully a win to get us to scottish. As a one time pyramidsceptic I'm glad we made the change Very similar feelings myself. From what I can gather from our committee the EoS have been fantastic to deal with, we've had the freshness of going to new places and I think that bringing the best of both codes together administratively and on the park can improve things further. Was very sceptical myself and I liked the Junior game but I'm also glad we made the change. Only thing I'd like to add is a Scotland wide cup tournament, miss the Scottish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbo Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Jeanfield are really enjoying it. New teams and new places and we are getting more through the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieboy Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 So far games against the lesser teams are very one sided but will sort it self out for next season when it will almost certainly be an all ex junior top league I agree with Rob M about the Scottish Cup miss that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I can't talk for the club but I'm enjoying the fresh experience. Our crowds have held up, New sponsors on board and season long fixture lists. It would be nice if we won a few more games. And a couple of the grounds have been a bit soulless(plastic pitches in cages with no crowds). But I'm looking forward to my first trip to Ormiston today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 11 hours ago, RobM said: Very similar feelings myself. From what I can gather from our committee the EoS have been fantastic to deal with, we've had the freshness of going to new places and I think that bringing the best of both codes together administratively and on the park can improve things further. Was very sceptical myself and I liked the Junior game but I'm also glad we made the change. Only thing I'd like to add is a Scotland wide cup tournament, miss the Scottish. Out of curiosity would becoming an SFA member and having access to the SFA Scottish Cup replace that feeling of being part of a Scottish wide tournament? Or does there have to be a feeling in the back of your mind you've got a chance to win it one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Out of curiosity would becoming an SFA member and having access to the SFA Scottish Cup replace that feeling of being part of a Scottish wide tournament? Or does there have to be a feeling in the back of your mind you've got a chance to win it one day. It's something I don't really understand as north teams didn't ever get far in it. South challenge cup effectively is the same thing. If west come over and are part of it. It's the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Really enjoying it, it seems a much more professional environment to operate in and much more supportive. A few teething issues as you would expect, and I miss the local rivalries but in time everyone will be in the same league system and I'm glad we were among the first to start the much needed path towards integration. Absolutely no regrets here and fingers crossed, Scottish Cup participation next season along with an U20 side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomessi1984 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Same sentiments on here that we saw as Kelty moved through the league last season - great to hear that clubs are relishing the change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The other good thing is our home KO times remain the same throughout winter due to the devils lanterns. No problem using them in the EoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 10 hours ago, AlanCamelonfan said: It's something I don't really understand as north teams didn't ever get far in it. South challenge cup effectively is the same thing. If west come over and are part of it. It's the same I can kind of see that but it's not quite got the same atmosphere about it if that makes any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I can kind of see that but it's not quite got the same atmosphere about it if that makes any sense.I guess its partially the history of the cups. Junior Cup goes back to 1886 whilst the South Chalenge Cup to 2007 (although its basically a sucessor to the Scottish Qualifying Cup that goes back to 1895). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun2 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Been tough for regular EOS teams but enjoyed visiting some of the established ex junior teams and seeing their fantastic setups.. Definitely been a positive move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 11 hours ago, RobM said: I can kind of see that but it's not quite got the same atmosphere about it if that makes any sense. But that's because of tradition than anything else or because it says scottish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 21 hours ago, AlanCamelonfan said: It's something I don't really understand as north teams didn't ever get far in it. South challenge cup effectively is the same thing. If west come over and are part of it. It's the same 11 hours ago, RobM said: I can kind of see that but it's not quite got the same atmosphere about it if that makes any sense. If you talk to friends, folk in the High Street who never go to games or have only been to Junior Cup finals and say "hey, we're in the final of the South Challenge Cup" they'll shrug. If you say "hey, we're in the final of the Junior Cup" they'll ask for details of the buses and they'll decorate the shop windows. The three times I've seen Rose win the Junior Cup have been brilliant days in the town, with an open top bus ride along a closed-off High Street and thousands celebrating, packing out the pubs. There's no chance any of that would happen for the South Challenge Cup, and no amount of explaining that it's basically the same, but with even more good teams in it, would make any difference. Football, especially at non-league level, is all about community and history, and you dick about with it at your peril. I was strongly in favour of Rose making the jump and the Junior Cup was never going to make much difference in deciding what would be best for the club. But huge efforts should be made by non-league football's officialdom to get the Junior Cup opened up to all non-league senior and juniors, even if the HL and the NCL decline the invite, because it's a very special competition. It is, because people have it in their minds that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, GordonS said: If you talk to friends, folk in the High Street who never go to games or have only been to Junior Cup finals and say "hey, we're in the final of the South Challenge Cup" they'll shrug. If you say "hey, we're in the final of the Junior Cup" they'll ask for details of the buses and they'll decorate the shop windows. The three times I've seen Rose win the Junior Cup have been brilliant days in the town, with an open top bus ride along a closed-off High Street and thousands celebrating, packing out the pubs. There's no chance any of that would happen for the South Challenge Cup, and no amount of explaining that it's basically the same, but with even more good teams in it, would make any difference. Football, especially at non-league level, is all about community and history, and you dick about with it at your peril. I was strongly in favour of Rose making the jump and the Junior Cup was never going to make much difference in deciding what would be best for the club. But huge efforts should be made by non-league football's officialdom to get the Junior Cup opened up to all non-league senior and juniors, even if the HL and the NCL decline the invite, because it's a very special competition. It is, because people have it in their minds that it is. Exactly what I said tradition. But if we had a non league trophy and it wasn't called the junior cup howon't is it any different from the south challenge cup. I think though the junior cup was more like the champions league more coverage and monly than winning your league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, GordonS said: I was strongly in favour of Rose making the jump No you weren't - you spent weeks moaning about the mythical Tuesday trip to Elgin and how it was suddenly going to cost £18 for you and your daughter. If anything you were one of the most negative people on here regarding the Wee Rose moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 hours ago, GordonS said: ...But huge efforts should be made by non-league football's officialdom to get the Junior Cup opened up to all non-league senior and juniors, even if the HL and the NCL decline the invite, because it's a very special competition. It is, because people have it in their minds that it is. Basically agree but at the same time I think we also have to acknowledge that the Junior Cup isn't what it used to be. Thirty to forty years ago you could still get 10,000+ at a senior ground for the semis and there was a lot of variety in who was making it to the last 8. Now you are lucky if it's half that for the final and far fewer clubs enter the competition with a realistic hope of going all the way to the final in an Ormiston Primrose, Darvel or Stonehouse Violet sort of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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