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Pot one - Poland
Pot two - wales or Iceland
Pot three - Scotland
Pot four - Albania
Pot five - Gibraltar
Pot six - San Marino

The key pot is pot two. Wales and Iceland would be great both moving backwards. Obviously Germany would be horrible and don’t want Russia, Denmark or Ukraine either. Czech Bosnia Austria Sweden would somewhere in the middle.

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A fun draw for qualifying ( although we prob wouldn’t qualify) would be

Pot one - England
pot two - Germany
Pot three - Scotland
Pot four - Cyprus
Pot five - Kosovo
Pot six - Malta

Worst draw would be
Pot one - France
Pot two - Germany
Pot three - Scotland
Pot Four - Romania
Pot five - Macedonia
Pot six - Latvia

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17 minutes ago, Steve_Wilkos said:

Pot 1 Switzerland
Pot 2 Wales

Surely

You must have missed the swiss drubbing belgium the other night. I went for croatia as we seem to always do well against them dont think they have ever beaten us.

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In case anyone was wondering about the format/pots. Bolded section is most relevant to Scotland

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The qualifying group stage draw will be held on 2 December 2018, 12:00 CET (11:00 local time) at the Convention Centre Dublin in Dublin, Republic of Ireland.[11][12] The 55 teams will be drawn into 10 groups: five groups of five teams (Groups A–E) and five groups of six teams (Groups F–J).[13]

The teams will be seeded based on the 2018–19 UEFA Nations League overall ranking. The four participants of the 2019 UEFA Nations League Finals in June 2019 will be placed in a separate pot and drawn into Groups A–D which only have five teams so that they only have to play eight qualifying matches, leaving two free matchdays to play in Nations League Finals.[1] The following restrictions will also be applied by computer assistance:

  • Host teams: In order to allow all 12 teams from the host associations to have a chance to qualify as group winners and runners-up, a maximum of two will be placed in each group: Azerbaijan, Denmark, England, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Republic of Ireland, Romania, Russia, Scotland, Spain.
  • Political clashes: The following pairs of teams cannot be drawn into the same group due to political clashes: Armenia / Azerbaijan, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia, Ukraine / Russia.
  • Winter venues: A maximum of two teams identified as venues with high or medium risk of severe winter conditions will be placed in each group: Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Russia, Ukraine.
  • Excessive travel: A maximum of one pair of teams identified with excessive travel distance in relation to other countries will be placed in each group:
    • Azerbaijan: with Gibraltar, Iceland, Portugal.
    • Iceland: with Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel.
    • Kazakhstan: with Andorra, England, France, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Wales.
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UNL Pot
Team Rank
16px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png  Switzerland 1
23px-Flag_of_Portugal.svg.png Portugal 2
23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands 3
23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 4
Pot 1
Team Rank
23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png Belgium 5
23px-Flag_of_France.svg.png France 6
23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain 7
23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png Italy 8
23px-Flag_of_Croatia.svg.png Croatia 9
23px-Flag_of_Poland.svg.png Poland 10
Pot 2
Team Rank
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 11
21px-Flag_of_Iceland.svg.png Iceland 12
23px-Flag_of_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina.svg. Bosnia and Herzegovina 13
23px-Flag_of_Ukraine.svg.png Ukraine 14
20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png Denmark 15
23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden 16
23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 17
23px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png Austria 18
23px-Flag_of_Wales_%281959%E2%80%93prese Wales 19
23px-Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg.png Czech Republic 20
Pot 3
Team Rank
23px-Flag_of_Slovakia.svg.png Slovakia 21
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey 22
23px-Flag_of_Ireland.svg.png Republic of Ireland 23
23px-Ulster_Banner.svg.png Northern Ireland 24
23px-Flag_of_Scotland.svg.png Scotland 25
21px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png Norway 26
23px-Flag_of_Serbia.svg.png Serbia 27
23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png Finland 28
23px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png Bulgaria 29
21px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png Israel 30
Pot 4
Team Rank
23px-Flag_of_Hungary.svg.png Hungary 31
23px-Flag_of_Romania.svg.png Romania 32
23px-Flag_of_Greece.svg.png Greece 33
21px-Flag_of_Albania.svg.png Albania 34
23px-Flag_of_Montenegro.svg.png Montenegro 35
23px-Flag_of_Cyprus.svg.png Cyprus 36
23px-Flag_of_Estonia.svg.png Estonia 37
23px-Flag_of_Slovenia.svg.png Slovenia 38
23px-Flag_of_Lithuania.svg.png Lithuania 39
23px-Flag_of_Georgia.svg.png Georgia 40
Pot 5
Team Rank
23px-Flag_of_Macedonia.svg.png Macedonia 41
21px-Flag_of_Kosovo.svg.png Kosovo 42
23px-Flag_of_Belarus.svg.png Belarus 43
23px-Flag_of_Luxembourg.svg.png Luxembourg 44
23px-Flag_of_Armenia.svg.png Armenia 45
23px-Flag_of_Azerbaijan.svg.png Azerbaijan 46
23px-Flag_of_Kazakhstan.svg.png Kazakhstan 47
23px-Flag_of_Moldova.svg.png Moldova 48
23px-Flag_of_Gibraltar.svg.png Gibraltar 49
21px-Flag_of_the_Faroe_Islands.svg.png Faroe Islands 50
Pot 6
Team Rank
23px-Flag_of_Latvia.svg.png Latvia 51
23px-Flag_of_Liechtenstein.svg.png Liechtenstein 52
22px-Flag_of_Andorra.svg.png Andorra 53
23px-Flag_of_Malta.svg.png Malta 54
20px-Flag_of_San_Marino.svg.png San Marino 55

 

 

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As someone already said, Pot 2 is the key. Add the possible strongest team in Pot 1 and we might have a chance.

My thinking is that a strong team from Pot 1 will beat everybody, whereas a weaker Pot 1 team might drop points to the teams from Pots 2 and 4.

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1 minute ago, Skinheed said:

Well, that's pretty clear.  :unsure:

We're only allowed one other host in our group and, if we draw a team from the UNL pot, we'd be in a 5 team group. Pretty simple to me. 

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37 minutes ago, DAFC. said:

We're only allowed one other host in our group and, if we draw a team from the UNL pot, we'd be in a 5 team group. Pretty simple to me. 

 

And if we draw Kazakhstan we can't get any of Andorra, England, France, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Spain or Wales.

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2 hours ago, Dr Watson said:

As someone already said, Pot 2 is the key. Add the possible strongest team in Pot 1 and we might have a chance.

My thinking is that a strong team from Pot 1 will beat everybody, whereas a weaker Pot 1 team might drop points to the teams from Pots 2 and 4.

Folk keep saying that. We had the reigning World Champions in our group for the last Euros; they dropped seven points against our closest rivals, and we couldn't take anything.

You can't tell what kind of form any of them will be in by the time the matches start*; France could be dugshite and struggle against Liechtenstein. I'll take whoever we've played least often lately, which might be the Swiss, giving me the opportunity to nurse my growing hatred for them and their baffling success through mediocrity.  Grr.

* except England.

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5 hours ago, skippy2015 said:

A fun draw for qualifying ( although we prob wouldn’t qualify) would be

Pot one - England
pot two - Germany
Pot three - Scotland
Pot four - Cyprus
Pot five - Kosovo
Pot six - Malta

Worst draw would be
Pot one - France
Pot two - Germany
Pot three - Scotland
Pot Four - Romania
Pot five - Macedonia
Pot six - Latvia

 

5 hours ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said:

England

Germany

Us

Cyprus

Kosovo

Latvia.

We'd lose all our away games.

We can't get England and Germany, or Germany and Romania. There's to be no more than two host nations in any one group. 

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The two host nations part will be crucial. There are weaker sides in Pot 4 & 5 than Hungary and Azerbaijan, but it might be worth getting them to avoid Germany, Denmark and Russia from Pot 2. The rest of that Pot, while still better than us, are far more beatable - Bosnia, Wales, Czech Republic, Ukraine, Austria, Sweden, Iceland. Would be chuffed with Wales, Bosnia or the Czechs. Least pleased with Sweden or Ukraine.

Would love Poland from Pot 1 as I don’t see them as too much better than the likes of Denmark or Sweden but it’s not ultimately too important. Pots 2 & 4 are crucial - Bosnia and Estonia is great, Germany and Greece isn’t.

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How will they do the draw? If a third host nation comes out in a group will they be thrown back in the pot? 

I'd imagine so.

 

ETA: Or they get moved into the next available group, which might actually be the more likely way to do it.

 

 

 

 

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