NJ2 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 This is giving me a headache trying to work this all out. I will just wait till 2020 to see if we have made it or notI think Craig is saying we’ve pretty much won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Onion Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I'd go as far as to say that if we finish 2nd in the group, we are extremely likely to still get a play-off spot as a result of being "moved up". If we finish 2nd in our group then we'll be somewhere from 29th-31st in the overall Nations League rankings (to finish 32nd, we'd need to lose by 5 goals tonight, so we can hopefully eliminate that possibility). There would be a total of 12 play-off spots available for teams ranked above us (4 in A, 4 in B, 4 in C). Let's assume the worst case scenario where we end up ranked 31st (ie the third best runner up - this could only happen if we lose tonight and a result goes against us in Group 4). For us not to get a play-off place, there would have to be 12 non-qualified teams ranked above us. That would mean that only 18 of the automatic qualification places were earned by teams in League A or League B, or by the winners of League C. In other words, at least two teams ranked below us in the Nations League would have to qualify automatically. If we end up ranked 30th, that would be three teams, and if we end up ranked 29th (most likely outcome if we draw tonight), it would have to be four teams below us (and also none of the four League C winners qualifying automatically). It's so good when it's a nice easy go out win the game and qualify. Was this qualifying tournament the work of Stephen Hawkins before he passed on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairney Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 hours ago, eez-eh said: If the Israel fans are sat where away fans normally are, they’ll be the ones occupying the West Bank of the stadium. Flares to be fired into the Israel end. Give them a taste of their own medicine - is ok though, the Israeli defence will intercept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Flares to be fired into the Israel end. Give them a taste of their own medicine - is ok though, the Israeli defence will intercept.To be fair, I think they're used to flares being fired at them indiscriminately. Presumably tonight they'll not be able to fire live rounds at the tartan army young team in retaliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Savage Henry said: Scotland do not play better against good teams, either. The typical Scotland myth is a crutch to deal with the pain of being shite. Quite. Fans love the "only us" in this country. See it every week with club football too - "Only {insert club name here} could throw this away" despite there being countless examples of various teams throwing away similar positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, DAFC. said: Israel will be sitting back tonight and playing for a draw. Time to go out and absolutely destroy them to make up for the embarrassment of the away defeat . No excuses tonight, we should be winning this handsomely. Jeremy Corbyn found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I have a bad feeling about this. 2-0 Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I have a bad feeling about this. 2-0 Israel. Star of David Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Quite. Fans love the "only us" in this country. See it every week with club football too - "Only {insert club name here} could throw this away" despite there being countless examples of various teams throwing away similar positions."Only in [insert place here] [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 If we fail to win tonight and McLeish states that the real work will start with the qualifiers then I will seriously lose it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 A win tonight would take a lot of pressure off us for the qualifying campaign with A playoff spot already confirmed. Expect this to be 1-1. We can’t be worse than the away game, but isreal will cause us problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy2015 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I’m pretty sure a win guarantees that we are one of the seeded teams so a home draw against either Finland or Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Would anyone fancy us to beat Serbia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bold Rover said: Would anyone fancy us to beat Serbia? Nope but Finland yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Bold Rover said: Would anyone fancy us to beat Serbia? No chance but they're one you would hope could qualify automatically. Don't understand how they were ranked below us in the first place. Finished well above us last time we drew them in a qualifying group and qualified for the world cup so how they were ranked below us is bizarre. They got done for an incident with Albania not so long ago but can't imagine they were punished that harshly for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bold Rover said: Would anyone fancy us to beat Serbia? I think it's fair to say I think we would have a better chance of beating them in a one off game than finishing above them in a group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 No chance but they're one you would hope could qualify automatically. Don't understand how they were ranked below us in the first place. Finished well above us last time we drew them in a qualifying group and qualified for the world cup so how they were ranked below us is bizarre. They got done for an incident with Albania not so long ago but can't imagine they were punished that harshly for it.Not quite well above us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Anyway, same team as Saturday's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bold Rover said: Would anyone fancy us to beat Serbia? 5 minutes ago, Rodhull said: No chance but they're one you would hope could qualify automatically. Don't understand how they were ranked below us in the first place. Finished well above us last time we drew them in a qualifying group and qualified for the world cup so how they were ranked below us is bizarre. They got done for an incident with Albania not so long ago but can't imagine they were punished that harshly for it. There is always a chance. They're a class above us right now so hopefully they qualify through the main route but they are hardly great shakes themselves in the grand scheme of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Same team tonight pleasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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